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dactyl-manuform

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I wrote about this in one of my articles. I use a Kinesis Advantage 360. It's like the Kinesis Advantage but split. I like it, but there are draw backs. Namely, the clusters are not mirrored across both keyboards. Left Side Backspace Delete Ctrl Alt Home End Right Super Key Ctrl Page Up Page Down Enter Space The keys are easy to hit, but the biggest problem is the space bar. On a typical keyboard the space bar is accessible from either thumb. This makes it so that if you are using the mouse and are playing an FPS, then you can still jump. This is not possible on the Kinesis Advantage withought modifying the keys. I use the Smartset program, and have a profile specifically for games that fixes this, but it might be annoying to some The second is that fact that there is not print screen key on the advantage. I take a lot of screenshots for
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work so this is annoying. I've set one of the 4 macro keys to be the key combination I need to make screenshots, but again this required some configuration. With that being said I still like the keyboard. My hands feel great even after 12 hours of mixed browsing, coding, and writing. My posture is better, and I don't get pain in my vertebrae next to my shoulder blade. But there are definitely things I would change if I was making it from scratch. Maybe in the future I'll Diy a dactyl-manuform^1 which has the perfect switches and layout for me. https://github.com/abstracthat/dactyl-manuform
In Glove80 Ergonomic Keyboard
I've never personally used a Planck, but I've got plenty of experience using alternative keyboards. With regards to ergonomics, I don't think the Planck solves really any of the issues with a standard keyboard. While the straight columns and rows might reduce some horizontal movement of your fingers when typing, the fact that it's one piece with no angle means that your wrists will be contorted, which is the same problem with a standard keyboard. Also, your fingers aren't the same length, so having ortholinear keys doesn't really account for that in any way and pinky finger keys are more difficult to access. If you're going to bother with learning how to type on an unconventional keyboard (and if you have any sort of concern for your wrist/hand health, I'd encourage you to do so), I'd suggest looking at split keyboards what have offset ro
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ws with straight columns of keys, at the minimum. ZSA actually sells the Ergodox EZ and Moonlander, both of which I'd say are better keyboards. They are of course a lot bigger than the planck, which might be problematic if you're using it on the go a lot. If you're looking for something a bit more portable, perhaps something like the atreus would be more suitable. There's a prebuilt one you can purchase from keyboardio [1] though you can find kits online to build one yourself. Gboards [2] also has some nice low profile small form factor keyboards, though the owner of Gboards is currently not accepting any new orders as she's working through the backlog of orders. There's a ton more shops that sell kits for small form factor keyboards and there is no shortage of choice for keyboards with all sorts of form factors and numbers of keys. A good place to start researching it is the ergonomic mechanical keyboards subreddit [3] and the olkb (planck) subreddit [4]. Personally, I use the Kinesis Advantage 2 [5] with a custom microcontroller designed by Michael Stapelberg [6] that allows me to run QMK [7] on it. Kinesis has announced a new fully split keyboard that doesn't have a ship date that I'm also very interested in [8]. These have concave key wells which are a bit hard to describe but once you've put your hands on one, it becomes pretty obvious the difference in just pure comfort to the hands they bring. Any keyboard with these key wells however are very large and not exactly a great portable keyboard. Still, I think the tradeoffs are well worth it. Finally, If the Advantage isn't your jam, there are open source keyboards made with key wells and are fully split like the Dactyl [9], and Dactyl Manuform [10]. Prebuilt manuforms can be found at Oh Keycaps [11] and a few other vendors. These are very geeky keyboards that will require a lot of effort on top of the effort of learning how to type, so I'd only suggest them if you're really ambitious about using alternative keyboards and getting the most out of them. A lot of the more popular mechanical keyboard communities are great for what they are, but they have kind of zeroed in on focusing on mostly aesthetics. The Mechanical Keyboards subreddit [12] is primarily glamour photos of people's keyboards and offers very little discussion in terms of ergonomics, alternative keyboard layouts, or other aspects of the hobby. Still, it's a great place to look for key switches you might like (the sound being one of the big considerations) or keycap group buys that you might be interested in. I hope that I can help get more eyes on the ergonomic keyboard community since more eyes is more interest and more interest means more innovation and better keyboards. [1] https://shop.keyboard.io/products/keyboardio-atreus [2] https://www.gboards.ca/ [3] https://www.reddit.com/r/ergomechkeyboards [4] https://www.reddit.com/r/olkb/ [5] https://kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage2/ [6] https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2020-07-09-kint-kinesis-... [7] https://qmk.fm/ [8] https://twitter.com/kinesisergo/status/1397335511694381058 [9] https://github.com/adereth/dactyl-keyboard [10] https://github.com/abstracthat/dactyl-manuform [11] https://ohkeycaps.com/products/built-to-order-dactyl-manufor... [12] https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/
In ZSA Planck EZ: A Powerful, Backlit, Open-Source, 40% Mechanical Keyboard
As it happens, I purchased the only two pieces of technology that I actually like in the past two years. The first is the ReMarkable 2[1]. While imperfect (not open-source, support is atrocious), its utility is so high that it more than makes up for it - it actually behaves like electronic paper, and is better than real paper for my use-cases. The second is a Dactyl-Manuform that a friend built and sold to me. It's one of the best ergonomic keyboards in existence, with the only others even able to challenge it are the Squeezebox[3] and the WARP[4]. Seriously, the DM makes almost every other "ergonomic" keyboard look like a joke, and it's physically pleasurable to type on. [1] https://remarkable.com/store/remarkable-2 [2] https://github.com/abstracthat/dactyl-manuform [3] https://peterlyons.com/problog/2021/04/squeezebox-keyboard/ [4] http
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In Ask HN: Favorite purchases of last two years?
>What's a fancy keyboard supposed to give me? If you want a standard keyboard with a standard layout or something similar, a cheap rubber dome keyboard is going to work just as well as my $600 keyboard. If that's the type of keyboard you want, the reason people like them is because they think they sound nicer, feel nicer, and in many cases look nicer. They also have better built quality and people appreciate well-built things. However, there are also situations where people are getting tangible benefits from mechanical keyboards. Some people don't have much desk space, so you can get a smaller keyboard and save room. It also makes them more portable if you feel like taking it with you. Another tangible benefit is programmability and the use of layers. Some people work faster and more efficiently with a smaller keyboard with multiple layer
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s. Another reason to use layers is for different use cases. I can have one layer programmed with a bunch of hotkeys for Photoshop, another layer for just normal typing/computer use, and another layer setup for gaming. Another thing to consider is ergonomics. I 3d printed a case for a Dactyl Manuform and hand-wired my own customized, split ergonomic keyboard. After switching to it, the tendonitis in my wrist cleared up. So, there is value to be found. However a lot of the people that want mechanical keyboards just want something that feels like it is a quality device. If that's what you're looking for, you can get something that will likely be the nicest keyboard you've ever used for $200 or less. Once you get to the $500+ mark for an entire build, you are venturing into the territory where its more of a fashion accessory. People want cases made by certain designers and while in some cases they have better features or are machined to a higher standard, you quickly run into diminishing returns. IMO if someone wants to get into mechanical keyboards, its hard to beat the standard model of GMMK keyboards for the price. You can get it for $60 without switches or keycaps. At that point pay $30-40 for Box Jade switches if you like clicky switches, $70-100 for zeal helios switches if you like smooth linear switches, or $50 for aliaz 70g tactile switches if you like MX browns. After that spend $30-50 on a cheap but decent PBT keycap set. Finally, do about 10 minutes worth of simple modifications to the keyboard and you'll end up with something that gets you 95% of the value you'd get out of a $2000 keyboard at 1/10th of the price. https://github.com/abstracthat/dactyl-manuform
In Beginner’s guide to mechanical keyboards
This year I dove deeper into the mechanical keyboard hobby. I bought a 3d printer, learned how to tweak the settings to get decent prints, and then I printed some cases. These were used to build a hand-wired dactyl manuform keyboard. I've also gotten into woodcarving by making figurines of animals. Making things is fun and relaxing. Example of similar keyboard: https://github.com/abstracthat/dactyl-manuform
In Ask HN: Most interesting things you've learned/discovered in 2020?
There are tons and tons of ortholinear diy-boards floating around. The problem with curved boards is manufacturing (for diy) and the pcb. But 3D printing solved the first problem and they are mostly soldered with wires rather than experimenting with pcbs. So there are a few curved boards out there as well. Such as https://github.com/abstracthat/dactyl-manuform/blob/master/R... As for touchpads they kind of suck as an input device (imo), but it would be easy to incorporate an apple device in the above. But people seem to be experimenting more with large ball mouses such as the kensington trackball or something like the point-stick that thinkpads use, where you don't even have to lift your hands of home-row.
In Anatomy of a Mechanical Keyboard (2018)

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