swift-protobuf

> so of Apple's programming languages So the whole part of your message about "even the FSF saying that free software should run on proprietary system" works when you want to criticize Hare, but not when looking at Apple proprietary software, right? A language is just another piece of software, I don't see why you should apply different rules to a programming language than, e.g. to a serializing system like Protobuf. And I don't think Google actively supports swift-protobuf (https://github.com/apple/swift-protobuf). Hare upstream just says "we are not interested in supporting non-free OSes, but we won't prevent you from doing it". It's your choice to not use Hare because of this, but it's their choice to not support macOS.

I’ve used Protobuf in Swift and it was pretty straightforward. Apple already provides a tool chain [1] so using a third party is a hard sell. I might not be fully understanding the product offering with Buf. [1] https://github.com/apple/swift-protobuf

> Why should they? That isn't their target audience. Because they need it? Apple discontinued macOS server, i bet they use Linux in some of their servers All their networking related libs are available and tested for Linux [1, 2, 3] Let's not forget that they package Swift for Linux, and now also for Windows [4] Swift is a cross-platform language (you not wanting to understand it doesn't change this fact), it's not a macOS framework [1] - https://github.com/apple/swift-nio [2] - https://github.com/apple/swift-protobuf/blob/main/.github/wo... [3] - https://github.com/apple/swift-distributed-actors/search?q=l... [4] - https://forums.swift.org/t/announcing-swift-5-6-2-for-linux-...