nbb

There are multiple options to approach the Clojure* ecosystem. But yes, it is more focused towards dedicated and experienced developers overall. I use IntelliJ Idea + Cursive for development and that seems quite comfortable. I have a very rough sketch of the environment setup for a real app here: https://www.orgpad.com/s/hfxYQYkcLYV We use a similar setup to develop OrgPad itself. You can use Babashka https://github.com/babashka/babashka for a quick and dirty setup to get you up and running quickly. That is also useful for scripting some things. You might also try shadow-cljs + ClojureScript, if you are more at home in the Node.js/ Browser JavaScript ecosystem and want to do something with it. There is a new "(Not)Babashka" but built on ClojureScript: https://github.com/borkdude/nbb that might be interesting as well. I have found this vid

Nbb is to CLJS what babashka is to JVM Clojure. Both scripting environments are implemented using SCI, a Clojure(Script) interpreter which re-uses all the core functions when you call those, the rest (creating vars, functions, namespaces) is interpreted "glue code" and that code isn't compiled (to bytecode or JS); instead it uses interpretation while trying to stay as close as possible to the host language. There are some things that are currently not supported, most notably deftype. For SCI on JS this is just a matter of time, but on JVM the target for SCI is mostly GraalVM images which come with the restriction that you can't implement new types at runtime. SCI originates mostly from the work on babashka, but with nbb, I'm adding better support for CLJS over time. As for third-party libs: it depends if they are written in the subset tha

All this just to avoid writing JS in nodejs for simple scripts? why add more complexity to simple things? just to write JS with parenthesis? clojurescript is overkill and definitely tedious to use for this because is not suited for scripts just doing lots of imperative, side-effecting stuff and dealing constantly with mutable APIs. I love lisp but... https://github.com/borkdude/nbb/blob/main/examples/puppeteer... "Look how cool I'm, I downloaded this thing just to add parenthesis to my JS script!"

Thanks! Note that npx itself adds some startup time to the mix. It's usually faster when ran as a global command (which should be safe since nbb doesn't depend on any other node libraries). Notes on that here: https://github.com/borkdude/nbb#startup-time

Nbb is a scripting environment that aims to make it easier to create ad-hoc scripts on Node.js using ClojureScript. It does not need a JVM for compilation: just use npm and you're good to go. Code is interpreted instead of compiled, which for scripting is usually ok. If your project outgrows the scripting phase, you can migrate to a proper ClojureScript compiler setup. Give it a try if you're curious about ClojureScript. https://github.com/borkdude/nbb