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binghe / PCL

PCL

Portable CommonLoops for modern CL platforms (unfinished work)

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Portable CommonLoops for modern CL platforms (unfinished work)

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Observed mentions: 2018-08-02 13:17:51 UTC to 2024-10-14 07:16:18 UTC.

0122018-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2019-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 2 mentions; 0 submissions, 2 comments20182019-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2020-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2020-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2021-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2021-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2022-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 1 mentions; 1 submissions, 0 comments20212022-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2023-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 1 mentions; 1 submissions, 0 comments2023-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2024-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2024-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2025-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 1 mentions; 0 submissions, 1 comments2024

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20182018-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2019-01-01 00:00:00 UTC202
20192019-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2020-01-01 00:00:00 UTC000
20202020-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2021-01-01 00:00:00 UTC000
20212021-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2022-01-01 00:00:00 UTC110
20222022-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2023-01-01 00:00:00 UTC110
20232023-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2024-01-01 00:00:00 UTC000
20242024-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2025-01-01 00:00:00 UTC101

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> Nobody will use Genera without Zmacs or the error handler (aka Debugger)… Nobody will run Genera without TCP/IP and a lot of other stuff. The error handler is not the same anymore. > you can take the Dynamic listener or even DW and have it running on a MIT system without much work I think that's pure fantasy. > Genera was carefully designed to keep compatibility with the MIT system. I don't think that was a goal, given that the MIT system was not relevant anymore and the vendors all had their own forks. TI converted much of the old code to Common Lisp with a translator. Symbolics wrote most new code in Common Lisp. Without an extensive implementation of Common Lisp incl. CLOS, basically nothing runs on the old system. The times of a few conditional reader macros was soon over. Does Portable Common LOOPS (PCL) run on the MIT Lisp Machine
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? https://github.com/binghe/PCL/tree/master/impl It lacks a port, but there are ports to TI and Symbolics. That should be simple.
In Common Lisp implementation of the Forth 2012 Standard
> Maxima uses Common Lisp Maxima is a direct port of Macsyma to Common Lisp and has been maintained in CL since the mid 80s. But it has not been re-architectured to take advantage of the many improvements in CL. Macsyma took advantage of the backwarts-compatibility of CL to Maclisp. > The source code problems are a reflection of Lisp as is the source code of other major Lisp programs still being actively maintained Many other Lisp programs have radically different source code / architecture from Macsyma. Check out the architecture of Reduce or Axiom. Maxima itself implements a language on top of Lisp. Reduce is written in Portable Standard Lisp (PSL). It uses an algebraic Lisp (without s-expression syntax), written in (PSL). Axiom implements an advanced statically typed language on top of Lisp and the original implementation makes EXTENSI
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VE use of literate programming. If you want to see what actual CL specific code looks like, you would need to look at code bases which have been architectured for CL - after end 80s / early 90s onwards, when CLOS and a bunch of other things was added to the language. One of the early great code bases for CL was the prototype implementation of CLOS with a meta-object protocol: Portable Common LOOPS. https://github.com/binghe/PCL There is a book which describes a simpler implementation - but with still quite nice code: The Art of the Meta-object Protocol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_the_Metaobject_Prot... https://github.com/binghe/closette > It is more about how you go about your development and how you document your than about the language you use to write your code. Lisp is called a programmer amplifier. Unfortunately bad programmers get amplified, too. The software engineering research has had the goal to create better programming languages. That let to Pascal, Ada, ... and a bunch of other languages. Lisp is the exact opposite. Lot's of freedom. With freedom comes responsibility. I have seen great Lisp code bases and also stuff I could not understand (basically write-once code). For me the ability to write extremely descriptive Lisp code is a huge attraction. But I know that one can easily write large programs which are hard to understand - and not just because they lack documentation.
In How Lisp Became God's Own Programming Language
Somehow. The original first CLOS implementation called PCL (Portable CommonLoops) was written in 100% Common Lisp with very little implementation specific CL code. PCL was a library which ran on at least 15 different Common Lisp implementations. What really is a myth that it's (only) macros. That CLOS implementation is a complex library written as data types, functions, macros, ... and which was bootstrapped to be partly written in itself using classes, method, generic functions, ... See for example: https://github.com/binghe/PCL
In Paul Graham on SICP (2000)

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