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ricochet-refresh

Anonymous peer-to-peer instant messaging

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Hi, morganava here. I'm currently the maintainer of Ricochet-Refresh (https://github.com/blueprint-freespeech/ricochet-refresh) which is the maintained fork of Ricochet-IM (which no longer works since like 2021 due to v2 onion-service deprecation in the tor network itself). First the good(?) news in bulleted list format: - As far as we know these efforts took place before the vanguards-lite feature became standard in tor which makes guard discovery of onion-services harder - The de-anonyimsation efforts took many months if not years and was a targeted effort (i.e. they did not have a turn-key de-anonymise onion-services solution) - it was only possible because the Germans knew the target's id/onion-service; if the target had kept their id secret then the Germans wouldn't have been able to de-anonymise it. - we've been working on a solutio
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n to the cyber-stalking problem for a few years since it was first discovered; you can find out all about that here: https://gosling.technology/design-doc.xhtml - work has started on the next major version of Ricochet-Refresh which will include these improvements, so look forward to that in the coming years --- The linked bug is related but it's not exactly the attack vector believed to be used in the boystown incident. Specifically (according to this artikel linked from wikipedia: https://www.heise.de/en/news/Boystown-investigations-Catchin...), the German police seem to been able to send arbitrary messages to the target which would imply they had compromised one of the target's contacts or the target had accepted a friend request from the police. So in some sense, the Germans had an easier time at it than we hypothesized since they didn't need to rely solely on metadata of online/offline status to find the user's guard. Instead they basically got lucky and were able to fingerprint their own network traffic to the user through relays they happened to control (unknown if they ran their own custom relays or tapped existing). Sorry it's a bit of hand-wavey here as the reporter refused to give us source documents so we don't actually know precisely how this attack worked and have had to piece things together based on their claims and the state of tor, the tor network, and ricochet-im back then. We've had to basically rely on the word of reporters that they're understanding their material correctly and that they've communicated it correctly (so like a second-hand retelling of a bug report XD). We do know it took the Germans quite a while (i.e. months to years) to do this and had to start over a few times when the target's guard node rotated. The fundamental problem which makes this sort of attack possible is that onion-service based peer-to-peer communications necessarily require an always-on onion-service for your peers to connect to. Without this piece nothing works. To work around this problem, we've been working on Gosling ( https://github.com/blueprint-freespeech/gosling ) which at a high level, allows you to have the p2p properties without the always on possibly public onion-service by basically negotiating credentials for 'secret' onion-services known only to your authorised peers (i.e. you contacts). Once you've added all your peers/friends that you want, you can shut down the public onion-service without interrupting normal communications with your peers. This of course does imply that you need to trust you contacts aren't cops. For the specifics, please go read our spec: https://gosling.technology/gosling-spec.xhtml Anyways, happy to answer any further questions on this.
In Ricochet: Peer-to-peer instant messaging system built on Tor hidden services (2017)
https://github.com/blueprint-freespeech/ricochet-refresh ...We are writing this blog post in response to an investigative news story looking into the de-anonymization of an Onion Service used by a Tor user using an old version of the long-retired application Ricochet by way of a targeted law-enforcement attack. ...From the limited information The Tor Project has, we believe that one user of the long-retired application Ricochet was fully de-anonymized through a guard discovery attack. This was possible, at the time, because the user was using a version of the software that neither had Vanguards-lite, nor the vanguards addon, which were introduced to protect users from this type of attack. This protection exists in Ricochet-Refresh, a maintained fork of the long-retired project Ricochet, since version 3.0.12 released in June of 2022.
In Is Tor still safe to use?
So the Signal server has no information about phone number X talking to or being in contact with phone number Y at all? > By contrast, other relatively popular messengers essentially keep a plaintext database of who talks to who on their service. I know, there are plenty of not-so-privacy-preserving messengers out there. The way Ricochet[1] and Briar[2] does it is probably the most privacy-preserving one, and it can be made extremely convenient. [1] https://github.com/blueprint-freespeech/ricochet-refresh/blo... [2] https://briarproject.org/how-it-works/
In How to build large-scale end-to-end encrypted group video calls
I do not think that OP was referring to implementing it the same, or even in a similar way, but to use a username/password pair. OP is free to correct me if I am wrong though. In any case, elimination of metadata done right is the way Ricochet[1] does it. The recipient can calculate the sender's contact ID based on the public key, and authenticate it by verifying the signature on the request. This proves that the sender can publish the hidden service represented by their contact ID. You can read more about it here: https://github.com/ricochet-im/ricochet/blob/master/doc/desi...! [1] https://github.com/ricochet-im/ricochet (maintained fork: https://github.com/blueprint-freespeech/ricochet-refresh)
In How to build large-scale end-to-end encrypted group video calls

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