goggles-quickstart

I see a lot of recommendations for kagi, but no mention of brave search - specifically the (beta) feature called “goggles”. Afaiu it’s a blend of kagi’s “lenses” and the site ranking in search results. https://search.brave.com/help/goggles There is a list (search) of public goggles: https://search.brave.com/goggles The goggles itself are just text files with basic syntax and can be hosted on e.g. github gist. (though you have to publish it to brave) https://github.com/brave/goggles-quickstart/blob/main/goggle... Tbh, I can’t really compare brave search to kagi, since I never used kagi (though I’m using Orion - webkit based browser from the same dev and love it). Afaik, brave search is using its own index, thus making the results somehow limited and inferior to kagis. Just wanted to throw some (free) alternative here that works for me.

I've recently been getting into Brave Goggles, and they have a `discard` feature so any site you don't explicitly mention get discarded from the results. For eg., see https://github.com/brave/goggles-quickstart/blob/main/goggle... They use 1000 domains from Hacker News posts and do ranking and all that, but for your purpose, you can just have $discard $boost,site=wikipedia.org $boost,site=stackexchange.com $boost,site=gitlab.com

"Goggles are simple, self-contained text files which can be hosted in Github or Gitlab. These files contain instructions allowing you to tell Brave Search how you'd like your results to be ranked. You can target specific URL patterns (and, soon, website titles and other aspects of Web pages) and indicate how their ranking should be altered (e.g. boosted, downranked, or completely discarded from the results)." - https://github.com/brave/goggles-quickstart Great to see a company protecting and empowering its users. I just tried it out myself. Very easy to implement (e.g., "Amazon-Excluded Search"). Thanks for sharing!

If you haven't heard of Brave Goggles (https://github.com/brave/goggles-quickstart) I highly recommend checking it out. Just being able to create the search index is a massive task, so being able to apply rules server-side to their "expanded recall set" will give you what most people building search engines want, which is to control the algorithm. We weren't able to do that until now since applying rules client-side doesn't work well on a small search result set. Related: I created a tool to create Goggles using subreddits as a signal source for domains: https://github.com/forcesunseen/narwhalizer

Not sure if you noticed this bubble up on HN earlier in the week but this might be helpful. It's not bookmarking as much as site-marking, and then having your own search engine based on that collection. Figured it was worth mentioning. https://github.com/brave/goggles-quickstart/blob/main/gettin...

Thanks for the great feedback! As you mentioned, before being able to apply multiple Goggles at once[1], we would need to define precedence rules. It's technically possible, but then we would also need to figure out some UX around it, etc. In the meanwhile, and although this might not be the most convenient, it is still possible to combine them and host them separately. The idea of having a separate Goggles aggregator was also mentioned yesterday; imagine a site when you can click a few check-boxes of Goggles you like, then get a new link with the combination of all of them (you could then submit this link in Brave Search to use the aggregated Goggle). In any case, applying multiple Goggles at once is something we have discussed internally, we're not yet planning on adding this but feedback like yours is super valuable for us to decide on

Is/will there be a way to combine Goggles? e.g. "No Pinterest" + "Copycats removal" + "1k short"? It would be a union of the discards, and the boosts/downranks either being cumulative, max(boosts/downranks from each Goggle), the current precedence rules[1], or something else. --- [1]: https://github.com/brave/goggles-quickstart/blob/main/gettin...

Hey, Brave engineer here, In this case it is needed because there is a generic '$discard' rule in the Goggle (which means: discard any result that does not match any other instruction from the Goggle; you can see this as a 'default action' applied to results if they are not caught by any other instruction). Using a 'boost=1' allows you to keep some sites, that you don't necessarily want to boost more than their "natural ranking". We have a bit more info about that in the "Getting Started" guide here: https://github.com/brave/goggles-quickstart/blob/main/gettin... I hope that helps!

This is a pretty innovative feature. Here's the source code for a sample "Hacker News" Goggle. Essentially, it will prioritize domains popular on Hacker News. I could even see a browser plugin that lets you add or remove domains as you visit them. https://github.com/brave/goggles-quickstart/blob/main/goggle... And here's the language syntax. https://github.com/brave/goggles-quickstart/blob/main/goggle...