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zxcvbn

Low-Budget Password Strength Estimation

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16.1KGitHub stars
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Low-Budget Password Strength Estimation

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This week on Hacker News

Nov 8–Nov 15 UTC · Direct repository links and separately labeled related project stories. Indexed through 11/15/2026, 12:45:45 PM UTC.

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Mentions over time

HN mentions by year62 dated mentions

Observed mentions: 2012-04-14 18:08:57 UTC to 2024-10-18 18:38:01 UTC.

02468102012-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2013-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 1 mentions; 1 submissions, 0 comments20122013-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2014-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 7 mentions; 1 submissions, 6 comments2014-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2015-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 2 mentions; 0 submissions, 2 comments2015-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2016-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 5 mentions; 0 submissions, 5 comments2016-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2017-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 10 mentions; 0 submissions, 10 comments2017-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2018-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 9 mentions; 0 submissions, 9 comments2018-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2019-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 8 mentions; 0 submissions, 8 comments20182019-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2020-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 6 mentions; 2 submissions, 4 comments2020-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2021-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 1 mentions; 0 submissions, 1 comments2021-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2022-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 3 mentions; 1 submissions, 2 comments2022-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2023-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 3 mentions; 0 submissions, 3 comments2023-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2024-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 4 mentions; 1 submissions, 3 comments2024-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2025-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 3 mentions; 0 submissions, 3 comments2024

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20122012-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2013-01-01 00:00:00 UTC110
20132013-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2014-01-01 00:00:00 UTC716
20142014-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2015-01-01 00:00:00 UTC202
20152015-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2016-01-01 00:00:00 UTC505
20162016-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2017-01-01 00:00:00 UTC10010
20172017-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2018-01-01 00:00:00 UTC909
20182018-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2019-01-01 00:00:00 UTC808
20192019-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2020-01-01 00:00:00 UTC624
20202020-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2021-01-01 00:00:00 UTC101
20212021-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2022-01-01 00:00:00 UTC312
20222022-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2023-01-01 00:00:00 UTC303
20232023-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2024-01-01 00:00:00 UTC413
20242024-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2025-01-01 00:00:00 UTC303

What Hacker News says

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Assuming they were actually keeping the contents of such wordlists out and actually ensuring high-entropy passphrases, we would be in an OK place, though still far removed from the security provided by randomly seeded ECC keypairs. But that's not the case: https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbn/issues/39 And as an attacker, I'm using my rainbow tables specifically to target the low hanging fruit. It gives me the best initial odds, and also the best return on any given hit: I'm way more likely to get more users per match for things in the common phrasebook, by nature of it being the common phrasebook.
In MiniLock – File encryption software that does more with less
Yeah use of zxcvbn is a problem. Minilock's key strength checking goes[0]: key.length > 32 && zxcvbn(key).entropy > 100 Firstly minilock allows the following: zxcvbn(". . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ").entropy = 161.421 [1] Secondly this only really works for English. While they are used to being forced to use English passwords, we can't expect that speakers of other languages would like English passphrases. It also has heuristics making assumptions of how people choose passwords (e.g. l33tifying) which may be less valid for longer phrases than short passwords. zxcvbn uses all English word lists and keyboard layout and automatically gives you a Unicode bonus[2] if you use unexpected characters. If I write a sentence in Chinese, I have a high entropy. Here minilock actually penalises Chinese by adding the key.length > 32 requirement as
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32 Chinese characters is equivalent to a much longer English passphrase. I suggest lowering the key length requirement in this case. However, if my passphrase were in Arabic and my attacker knew it was likely to be in the Arabic alphabet, I'm not really entitled to the aforementioned Unicode bonus as the entropy drops to be similar to English (I think). That said, the design decisions of zxcvbn do make sense for Dropbox and zxcvbn is not the crucial part of the minilock program (the crypto is). Users will always find a way to game the system and find the lowest possible entropy passphrase. [0] https://github.com/kaepora/miniLock/blob/80aff2cdbcebf669fae... [1] https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbn/issues/39 [2] https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbn/blob/0a8b5b65a1864437eaac5...
In MiniLock – File encryption software that does more with less

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