Framework-Laptop-13

Ryzen 5000 didn't have USB4 (TB3) support so that was a no-go - Framework uses 4 x Burnside Bridge ( JHL8040R) TB4 re-timers [1], one for each of their expansion module plugs. Ryzen 6000 uses Kandou retimers, which is probably a much bigger lift than plopping 12th Gen in (looks like the PD controller was refreshed (and the RTC fixed) but basically the rest of the board stayed the same [2]). I think one thing to keep in mind also is that for whatever reason, 10 months after launch, the number of Ryzen 6000U laptops I've ever seen advertised for sale I can count on one hand (I was watching all year, I would have much preferred a Ryzen 6800U laptop!). Currently, only the Asus Zenbook S 13 and Lenovo ThinkBook 13s are available in retail stores in the US (Amazon and Newegg, respectively). In the EU, Geizhals search turns up exactly 1 6800U mo

One thing worth noting is that basically, even now (almost 10 months post announcement), almost no one has a 6000U laptop outs (a search on Amazon and Best Buy shows two 6800U laptop models total, one Asus and one Lenovo). Two niche vendors, XMG and Star Labs, have both publicly stated that they would have loved to have offered Ryzen 6000 laptops, but couldn't get any allotments. There are were also well documented chipset issues - even into the summer Lenovo and Asus talked about requiring firmware updates to enable their USB4 ports. That being said, starting w/ Rembrandt, AMD now has full 40Gbps USB4 controllers built on-chip. I'm really looking forward to Ryzen 7040 because Phoenix looks great (Zen4 + RDNA3 on TSMC N4 - yes please) and hopefully USB4 support has matured enough on the AMD side that Framework is able to release something

We've released 3D-printable files for a case for the Mainboard: https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/Mainboard We've also seen some great community developed cases. We can't share any plans around commercial cases of our own, but we'd love to see third party ones come around.

Yep, we absolutely understand and respect Louis and community members' requests for full schematics, and we appreciate the folks who extend understanding as we work through constraints (including Louis as noted in that last video). We're continuing to make as much open as we can, and we're adding to that list as we go: * Mainboard partial schematics, drawings, and pinouts: https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/Mainboard * Expansion Card reference designs: https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/ExpansionCards * Embedded Controller firmware: https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/EmbeddedController On the list of things that we are exploring ways to improve on in the future: * More of the schematics, including of modules beyond the Mainboards. * Moving to open UEFI/BIOS solutions.

We make full schematics and board views available to repair shops under a confidentiality agreement: https://knowledgebase.frame.work/en_us/availability-of-schem... In this case, we didn't see a request for it come in. Publicly with no agreement required, we were able to share a sub-set of the schematic focused on the internal and external connectors: https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/Mainboard/blob/main/Ele... Louis has more context on the latter in an earlier video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cJj8PUY0DU

We don't do trade-ins, but we have released projects to enable re-use of old Mainboards: https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/Mainboard We're seeing some interesting outputs of that: https://github.com/brickbots/framedeck/ https://github.com/penk/MainboardTerminal

Technically you can use the 50 pin header we have for the input system for GPIO, i2c, and USB. The webcam and display headers also have i2c and USB: https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/Mainboard/blob/main/Ele... The GPIO would require EC firmware development, but it is technically possible: https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/EmbeddedController

Yes, and they open-sourced a 3D-printable case just for that purpose :) https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/Mainboard/tree/main/Mec...

The 3D printable, open-source, case that allows you to use the mainboard as a standalone computer is such a nice touch! https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/Mainboard/tree/main/Mec...