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go-json-experiment
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go-json-experiment / json

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Experimental implementation of a proposed v2 encoding/json package

6Distinct people
6Mentions
0Explicit recommenders
543GitHub stars
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What it is

Experimental implementation of a proposed v2 encoding/json package

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Where it is used

No documented product use has been verified yet.

What people are saying

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This week on Hacker News

Nov 7–Nov 14 UTC · Direct repository links and separately labeled related project stories. Indexed through 11/14/2026, 1:49:46 PM UTC.

No direct repository links were found in the indexed HN discussions over the past seven days. Older discussions are available below.

Mentions over time

HN mentions by month6 dated mentions

Observed mentions: 2023-08-13 17:59:22 UTC to 2025-09-09 18:07:57 UTC.

012023-08-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2023-09-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 1 mentions; 0 submissions, 1 commentsAug 20232023-09-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2023-10-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2023-10-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2023-11-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2023-11-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2023-12-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2023-12-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2024-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2024-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2024-02-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2024-02-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2024-03-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2024-03-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2024-04-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2024-04-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2024-05-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2024-05-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2024-06-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2024-06-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2024-07-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 1 mentions; 0 submissions, 1 comments2024-07-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2024-08-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2024-08-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2024-09-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 1 mentions; 0 submissions, 1 commentsAug 20242024-09-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2024-10-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2024-10-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2024-11-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 1 mentions; 0 submissions, 1 comments2024-11-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2024-12-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2024-12-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2025-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2025-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2025-02-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2025-02-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2025-03-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2025-03-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2025-04-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 1 mentions; 0 submissions, 1 comments2025-04-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2025-05-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2025-05-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2025-06-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2025-06-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2025-07-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2025-07-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2025-08-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2025-08-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2025-09-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2025-09-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2025-10-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 1 mentions; 0 submissions, 1 commentsSep 2025

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What Hacker News says

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IME this is a longstanding pain point with Go. There's an attempt to propose an encoding/json/v2 package [1] being kicked around at the moment [2], spawned from a discussion [3]. This at least seems to improve the situation of marshalling to/from an interface directly slightly by providing the ability to pass custom Unmarshalers for a specific type (via json.WithUnmarshalers and json.UnmarshalFunc) to the Unmarshal functions, but it appears to still have the inefficient double-decode problem. Or I just haven't found a decent way around it yet. Looks like they're intentionally punting on a first class solution until (if) the language gets some sort of sum type, but I still think the second-class solution could do a bit more to make this extremely common use-case more convenient. Pretty much every serious production Go app I've worked on in
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the last 10 years or so has had some horrible coping strategy for the "map a field-discriminated object to/from implementations of an interface" gap, often involving some sort of double-unmarshal. Quote from the proposal [1]: > First-class support for union types: It is common for the type of a particular JSON value to be dynamically changed based on context. This is difficult to support in Go as the equivalent of a dynamic value is a Go interface. When unmarshaling, there is no way in Go reflection to enumerate the set of possible Go types that can be stored in a Go interface in order to choose the right type to automatically unmarshal a dynamic JSON value. Support for such use cases is deferred until better Go language support exists. [1]: https://pkg.go.dev/github.com/go-json-experiment/json [2]: https://github.com/golang/go/issues/71497 [3]: https://github.com/golang/go/discussions/63397
In Decoding JSON sum types in Go without panicking
It is much faster for CPU-bound work. In my experience, 2x-5x is the most common range I get. There are many reasons besides just memory allocation and LLVM that Rust code ends up faster. Let me just focus on one very commonly used data structure: hash maps. Rust hash maps: * Use SwissTable because they didn't make a short-sighted promise about delete-while-iterating behavior that makes Go incompatible with SwissTable's tombstone design and makes Go never shrink maps once created. * Let you customize the hash function to whatever performs best for your key type & target hardware. * Let you find & insert/update in one hash table lookup, where Go always requires at least two, and its compiler doesn't optimize even the most common idioms. * Let you reference a key/value in-place instead of having to copy it out each time. Go won't allow this
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because the reference may become stale, but Rust can enforce this with lifetimes. * Let you clone a map without rehashing every key to a new seed. I generally measure at least 15x speedup from this alone, unlocking very useful design patterns like "clone a map and apply a few temporary updates for a one-off operation like validation or simulation" with no extra code complexity. Go gives you no better option than slowly rehashing the entire map. And that's just hash maps. How about Go's regex engine being one of the slowest in the world while Rust's regex crate being one of the fastest: https://github.com/mariomka/regex-benchmark#optimized https://github.com/BurntSushi/rebar#summary-of-search-time-b... Further, Go refusing to have macros means that many libraries use reflection instead, which often makes those parts of the Go program perform no better than Python and in some cases worse. Rust can just generate all of that at compile time with macros, and optimize them with LLVM like any other code. Some Go libraries go to enormous lengths to reduce reflection overhead, but that's hard to justify for most things, and hard to maintain even once done. The legendary https://github.com/segmentio/encoding seems to be abandoned now and progress on Go JSON in general seems to have died with https://github.com/go-json-experiment/json . Remember that next time someone parrots the myth that Go is ideal for HTTP JSON APIs. Many people claiming their projects are IO-bound are just assuming that's the case because most of the time is spent in their input reader. If they actually measured they'd see it's not even saturating a 100Mbps link, let alone 1-100Gbps, so by definition it is not IO-bound. Even if they didn't need more throughput than that, they still could have put those cycles to better use or at worst saved energy. Isn't that what people like to say about Go vs Python, that Go saves energy? Sure, but it still burns a lot more energy than it would if it had macros. Maybe someone's recipe website doesn't care but world-scale datacenter applications do. Rust can use state-of-the-art memory allocators like mimalloc, while Go is still stuck on an old fork of tcmalloc, and not just tcmalloc in its original C, but transpiled to Go so it optimizes much less than LLVM would optimize it. (Many people benchmarking them forget to even try substitute allocators in Rust, so they're actually underestimating just how much faster Rust is) Oh yeah, aside, tcmalloc was designed for C++ code with lots of temporary allocations that are allocated & freed by the same thread so they're very cheap when cached per thread/core. Go almost always frees things on a separate GC thread, completely undermining this design goal. So tcmalloc isn't even a good fit for Go, yet there's no other choice available. People don't even discuss it any more because what is there to discuss, Go and all of its users are just stuck with it. Finally, even Go Generics have failed to improve performance, and in many cases can make it unimaginably worse through -- I kid you not -- global lock contention hidden behind innocent type assertion syntax: https://planetscale.com/blog/generics-can-make-your-go-code-... It's not even close. There are many reasons Go is a lot slower than Rust and many of them are likely to remain forever. Most of them have not seen meaningful progress in a decade or more, and I'm not holding my breath for the next decade either.
In Rust vs. Go in 2023

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