url-shortener

to be simple CRUD apps. I have built those with server-rendered templates, yes (here's a takehome for some company from a couple of years back: https://github.com/golergka/url-shortener). Exactly! I am talking about the cases, when people take out the sledgehammer, where a screwdriver would have been appropriate.

architectural decisions, and was able to compete a ticket on the first day. Overall, I think it’s a difference in experience. I build complex web applications. IDEs. User interfaces with complex, customisable data widgets updated in real time. People I talk with about web development are building 3d visualization platforms with C++ compiled to WebAssembly. Games. Image editors. What your are talking about seem to be simple CRUD apps. I have built those with server-rendered templates, yes (here's a takehome for some company from a couple of years back: https://github.com/golergka/url-shortener). However, a lot of apps _seem_ to be simple CRUD apps in the beginning, until you anticipate future features and other requirements that will force you to adopt a frontend framework all too late. Do you need a form with search over content from the server? You need a system to query data and cache the results. Update data in real time with websocket connection, while also allowing your user to edit it? You need a system to consolidate state. Save user's data in local storage? Also local state, but also schemas and migrations for when your app updates. Table of 100s of thousands units of data, which user should be able to filter, sort and edit, with updates from the server too? Don't even get me started. There's a lot of other examples I'm too lazy to type. Overall — you either adopt a proper frontend framework or try and implement it in “simple JS” and then spend much more time fighting a lot of subtle bugs that simply would not happen if you used proper abstractions and tools.