DDddlutz·Dec 18, 2022
Maybe Google's new "Rune" language will become prevalent https://github.com/google/rune, which supports SoA.
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Rune is a programming language developed to test ideas for improving security and efficiency.
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8 sourcesI guess a couple ideas:
Function farms. You implement functions as needed, making sure everything halts. The challenge is some users will certainly ask for loops or persist state, and you've handrolled an embedded no-code product.
Even in VBScript, one could chain functions (named as strings):
Dim Workflow : Set Workflow ' instantiate
.Step("SetupStuff")
.Step("DoThisThing")
.Step("DoOtherThing")
.Step("Customer1CustomFunc")
.Step("Customer2VerySimilarFunc")
Internally, the class enumerates in a loop for each record, so you save a level of indentation.
Sum types. I think this could be done with a table representing multiple types [1].
For example, an Organization table requires a Name field and represents subtypes Legal Org or Informal Org.
Legal Org subtype lives in the same table and uses Federal Tax ID Num, Corpo
Read the rest
ration, and Govt Agency fields.
Informal Org uses Team, Family, and Other Informal Org fields.
> The subtypes within an entity should
represent a complete set of
classifications (meaning that the sum of
the subtypes covers the supertype in its
entirety) and at the same time be
mutually exclusive of each other (an
exception ... covered in the next
section).
Interfaces. Stored procs as functions could enforce preconditions. That could be aided by unit tests. Or a test generator, because checking for fields and field types should be straightforward, since the table defines them up front (static).
Recursion. Recently, Google says Rune lang supports something "easy" to do in SQL [2]:
> [Hierachical structures like family
trees] can be tricky to model in some
languages, yet is trivial in both SQL
and Rune
Pretty vague, but I know stuff like org charts can be done with CTEs and recursion (plus sweat and StackOverflow).
Is that what you mean by "recursive namespaces?"
> SOA is something that leads to a kind
of segmented DDD
> made such a mess with it
Yes, we needed to reinforce it at the infra/deployment level to get any meaningful separation. But as soon as a deadline looms, environments start to blur...
[1] Silverston, Len. The Data Model Resource Book (Revised Edition). Volume 1. Wiley. 2001.
[2] https://github.com/google/rune
That covers the one case in the example, but the language goes even further than that in ensuring constant-time processing of secrets, including ensuring speculative execution in the CPU won't expose the data to timing attacks.
I don't know enough about the subject to really evaluate this in detail, but I am more than willing to at least entertain the notion that the problem space is thorny enough that a language-level solution really can do some things that can't be as effectively accomplished with a library solution. Even in a language with a strong compiler like Rust.
Rune also has an interesting approach to pointer safety that's significantly different from Rust's: https://github.com/google/rune/blob/main/doc/index.md#runes-...
In The Rune Programming LanguageIt looks like Rune still has a bitwise XOR operator: @
https://github.com/google/rune/blob/main/bootstrap/database/...
That innovation does seem like a potential footgun.
In The Rune Programming LanguageWhy do they call it "Python-inspired" if it looks like C++?
From https://github.com/google/rune/blob/main/benchmarks/mandelbr...
for k = 0u32, k < 8u32, k += 1 {
cr0[k] = 2.0 * <f64>(8 * x + k) / <f64>width - 1.5;
}
In The Rune Programming LanguageRune - posted very recently -
https://github.com/google/rune
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33761193
In Mangle, a programming language for deductive database programmingI can think of a few others…
Sawzall, a language focused around processing logs. Rob Pike led on this but use has pretty much all been replaced by Go. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sawzall_(programming_languag...
Dex, a language focused around array processing from the team behind the Jax machine learning library. Early stage research project.
https://github.com/google-research/dex-lang
Rune, a language focused on security, early stage research project. https://github.com/google/rune
Wuffs, a language focused on writing safe file format handlers (parsing, encoding, decoding)
https://github.com/google/wuffs
In Mangle, a programming language for deductive database programming