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There is absolutely no truth to the assertion that the haskell.org management hasn't played fair or listened and responded to suggestions from the community. These allegations are FUD spread by people who can't seem to be bothered by the realities of large organizations balancing many competing concerns. As near as I can tell these allegations are primarily referring to a pull request by Michael Snoyman [1] that completely removed four existing sections from the haskell.org download page and replaced them with a link to a tool only a few months old written mostly by Michael and others at FP Complete. I think any reasonable person would agree that a pull request like this to a language's official website is completely ridiculous and should definitely not be accepted. In fact, Gershom & co have proven very reasonable because they did eve

Funnily, there's haskell-cafe thread[0], a github issue, and even a paper, about this (and I think maybe reddit got involved too). Anyhow, the title is kind of too much. At least, given the aforementioned discussions, we're conflicted liars. [0]https://mail.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2015-April/1... [2]http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~oneill/papers/Sieve-JFP.pdf [3] https://github.com/haskell-infra/hl/pull/8

It's annoying particularly because Haskellers are perfectly aware of the problems with the example, but have struggled on the mailing list to come up with something which: 1. Could make at least some sense to somebody that knows zero Haskell 2. Isn't too trivial 3. Isn't leaning too heavily on libraries 4. Is at least somewhat "real"/performant Your example doesn't address any of the constraints of the medium. If you can think of a better example for that part of the website, it would be welcomed on the mailing list. I've been watching people try to figure out something that isn't too weak in any of those dimensions for months and now you're going to post an article with a title calling them liars because you want more attention for your blog? What would satisfy you? Renaming the sieve function? What do we need to do to prevent people lik

I really like the new design. The old site was certainly showing its age--very dense and hard to navigate. Never mind the lovely 1990s motif. This is far more welcoming and user-friendly, especially to those who might be curious about Haskell. It's exciting to witness Haskell gain traction within industry. Facebook announced last week that its building an entirely new Haskell team to focus on distributed systems, data mining, and machine learning. They're also hiring for a second team to support Haxl [1]. For those eager to use Haskell in the workplace, I imagine the new design should make it easier to formulate a compelling business case. Being able to point your project manager and/or colleagues to a website that clearly explains what Haskell is--and what sets it apart--is a big plus. The source code for the site can be found on GitHub

A new website will never be perfect. Luckily They're very open to suggestions and criticism . There seems to be an active issue tracker here [0] that is used to keep track of feedback. Pull requests seem to be welcomed as well. Quite the friendly community it seems. By the way. the old website moved to https://wiki.haskell.org/Haskell [0] https://github.com/haskell-infra/hl/issues