jackaudio

new-session-manager

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jackaudio / new-session-manager

new-session-manager

Assists music production by grouping standalone programs into sessions. Community version of "Non Session Manager".

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Assists music production by grouping standalone programs into sessions. Community version of "Non Session Manager".

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Jul 5	2021-07-05 00:00:00 UTC	2021-07-12 00:00:00 UTC	4	4
Jul 12	2021-07-12 00:00:00 UTC	2021-07-19 00:00:00 UTC	2	2
Jul 19	2021-07-19 00:00:00 UTC	2021-07-26 00:00:00 UTC	0	0
Jul 26	2021-07-26 00:00:00 UTC	2021-08-02 00:00:00 UTC	0	0
Aug 2	2021-08-02 00:00:00 UTC	2021-08-09 00:00:00 UTC	0	0
Aug 9	2021-08-09 00:00:00 UTC	2021-08-16 00:00:00 UTC	0	0
Aug 16	2021-08-16 00:00:00 UTC	2021-08-23 00:00:00 UTC	0	0
Aug 23	2021-08-23 00:00:00 UTC	2021-08-30 00:00:00 UTC	0	0
Aug 30	2021-08-30 00:00:00 UTC	2021-09-06 00:00:00 UTC	0	0
Sep 6	2021-09-06 00:00:00 UTC	2021-09-13 00:00:00 UTC	0	0
Sep 13	2021-09-13 00:00:00 UTC	2021-09-20 00:00:00 UTC	1	1

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peterfield·Sep 15, 2021

One more tool to play with - cool. https://non.tuxfamily.org/ http://openavproductions.com/ https://kx.studio/Applications https://www.renoise.com/ https://www.giadamusic.com/ https://github.com/jackaudio/new-session-manager

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LukeShu·Jul 13, 2021

Half-right. https://github.com/jackaudio/new-session-manager was originally named https://github.com/linuxaudio/new-session-manager and has since been renamed (you can tell because of the redirect). The github.com/linuxaudio URL is the one they were using as recently as January this year: https://lists.linuxaudio.org/archives/linux-audio-user/2021-... When I wrote the parent comment, I did not notice that I was being redirected from github.com/linuxaudio to github.com/jackaudio; I apologize for that mistake.

In Non Session Manager vs New Session Manager

drmr·Jul 12, 2021

Oh, no. That's just the NON meta repository mirror (because Jonathan removed his repos from the internet). The New-SM repo is hosted here: https://github.com/jackaudio/new-session-manager

In Non Session Manager vs New Session Manager

discardable_dan·Jul 10, 2021

Can you clarify what features did the new NWS add that old NWS was refusing to add? That seems like the crux of the entire tiff, and without that knowledge it's very difficult to discern which side is more reasonable. Edit: Honestly, some of the initial commits to the new repository are more in line with Liles' account: https://github.com/jackaudio/new-session-manager/commits/mas... Starting in April 2020, changes include: - Dumping the timeline, sequencer, and mixer: https://github.com/jackaudio/new-session-manager/commit/80e9... - Removing any thing with logos or icons, e.g., "filing the serial number off": https://github.com/jackaudio/new-session-manager/commit/7992... - Enable debug mode / verbose mode by default: https://github.com/jackaudio/new-session-manager/commit/3975... - Change project build system over to meson: https://githu

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b.com/jackaudio/new-session-manager/commit/e431... (plus others) - Update build system to exclude current GUI / make it optional: https://github.com/jackaudio/new-session-manager/commit/63e6... - Set up symlinking by default in install: https://github.com/jackaudio/new-session-manager/commit/3681... - Force the project onto GPL3, more serial numbers filing: https://github.com/jackaudio/new-session-manager/commit/2731... After that is a number of fixes. Unfortuantely, from this list of "immediate" changes, it reads like the Argodejo developers decided they would be the preferred GUI, and decided to fork the project to abandon the current GUI. The README was even modified to this end: https://github.com/jackaudio/new-session-manager/commit/7f23... They also forced the project onto a different build system, and made new (and possibly incorrect) assumptions about installation. If the fixes came first (build fixes, etc.) and the other work came later, I would have a more-charitable view of this fork. Unfortunately, the immediate changelog sort of speaks for itself: they forked NSM, filed off all the names, changed over the licensing and build system, and ripped out the GUI. Then, a few months later, they actually started fixing bugs. The motivation here really seems to be subsuming ownership and default UI. This really just looks like a classic internet slap fight. Of course, this is only conjecture from the git commit history, but... it's supported by the git commit history.

In Non Session Manager vs New Session Manager

LukeShu·Jul 10, 2021

> Seems the fork was years ago. The article says this all started in "early 2020"; about a year and a half ago. Indeed, looking at the new-session-manager commit history, the fork was started in April 2020[1], and first announced in June 2020[2]. > It appears that Fedora dumped this guy's version in favor of the fork some time back So did Arch Linux. Notably, the Arch Linux contributor who did it is David Runge, one of the 3 people called out in the article. [1]: https://github.com/jackaudio/new-session-manager/commit/6352... (the first commit after the last commit from Jonathan Moore Liles) [2]: https://lists.linuxaudio.org/archives/linux-audio-user/2020-... (1.3 is the initial version of the fork, as at the time 1.2.0 was the latest version of non-session-manager)

In Non Session Manager vs New Session Manager

chmod775·Jul 10, 2021

That's one side of the story, if anyone cares to read the other, this appears to be the mailing list thread that is being referred to: https://lists.linuxaudio.org/archives/linux-audio-dev/2021-F... Then there's also this reddit comment: https://old.reddit.com/r/linuxaudio/comments/lk3u74/non_sess... > New Session Manager was created as a fork because Non Session Manager grew stale and Jonathan was very abrasive to work with [..] getting PRs/patches merged didn't go anywhere. > Also Jonathan (the Non suite creator) removed all his repos [..], which is something that's obviously not acceptable behavior. The "new session manager" appears to be on GitHub: https://github.com/jackaudio/new-session-manager Please also note that this drama is months old at this point.

In Non Session Manager vs New Session Manager

1MachineElf·Jul 10, 2021

Here's a link to the controversial fork: https://github.com/jackaudio/new-session-manager

In Non Session Manager vs New Session Manager