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Observed mentions: 2019-06-13 13:48:43 UTC to 2020-03-31 05:39:42 UTC.

012019-06-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2019-07-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 1 mentions; 0 submissions, 1 commentsJun 20192019-07-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2019-08-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2019-08-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2019-09-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 1 mentions; 0 submissions, 1 comments2019-09-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2019-10-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2019-10-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2019-11-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 commentsOct 20192019-11-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2019-12-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2019-12-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2020-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2020-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2020-02-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2020-02-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2020-03-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2020-03-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2020-04-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 1 mentions; 0 submissions, 1 commentsMar 2020

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Jun 20192019-06-01 00:00:00 UTC2019-07-01 00:00:00 UTC101
Jul 20192019-07-01 00:00:00 UTC2019-08-01 00:00:00 UTC000
Aug 20192019-08-01 00:00:00 UTC2019-09-01 00:00:00 UTC101
Sep 20192019-09-01 00:00:00 UTC2019-10-01 00:00:00 UTC000
Oct 20192019-10-01 00:00:00 UTC2019-11-01 00:00:00 UTC000
Nov 20192019-11-01 00:00:00 UTC2019-12-01 00:00:00 UTC000
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Feb 20202020-02-01 00:00:00 UTC2020-03-01 00:00:00 UTC000
Mar 20202020-03-01 00:00:00 UTC2020-04-01 00:00:00 UTC101

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The vision of Open UI is "interoperability" but it doesn't explain what exactly is supposed to interoperate. To support that vague vision, Open UI identifies four goals, and all of them are silly. 1) Document component names as they exist today 2) A common language for describing UIs and design systems 3) Eventual browser standards for web app components 4) Converging designer processes and developer workflows #1 and #2 seem like two sides of the same coin, but they don't directly solve any "interoperability" problem. Agreeing to use the same name for "button" or "switch" would hardly solve this problem from the vision statement: "Untold amounts of human effort are exhausted globally every day on rebuilding identical components for web apps." #4 is so vague that I literally have no idea what it means. As for #3, we already have have brows
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er standards for web app components. What would Open UI deliver? My best guess is that Open UI is laying the groundwork for built-in standardized web components like std-switch https://github.com/tkent-google/std-switch and std-toast. https://github.com/jackbsteinberg/std-toast In that case, I think the vision statement should say: "Open UI will develop new web components that we hope will one day become built-in standard browser features. To do that, we're going to scrutinize popular UI design systems, looking for cowpaths to pave."
In Open UI
There isn't a good argument for considering marquee deprecated anymore. Not when a <toast> element is being considered[0]. So I'd use it whenever I want a marquee. After all, <marquee> and <toast> are both shorthands for stuff that could be implemented in CSS/JS - except marquee is well supported, well specified, and more semantically different than other elements compared to <toast> (which is pretty similar to <dialog> and arguably <output>[1]). [0] https://github.com/jackbsteinberg/std-toast [1] https://www.scottohara.me/blog/2019/07/10/the-output-element...
In Marquee HTML Element
I find it interesting that part of the reasoning for the <toast> is this: "Many libraries in a variety of frameworks implement a version of toast (see research), but the web has no built-in API to address the use case." [1] One thing I would love to see as a browser handled web standard is the cookie notice and gdpr opt-in for a given web page. Every European site has a requirement to include that if they use cookies or ask for personal data, but there is no method of making it a web experience across the web. Unless I can do this of course: <toast> <button>Accept cookies</button> </toast> [1] https://github.com/jackbsteinberg/std-toast
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