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[INACTIVE] Rust's standard library, free of C dependencies, for Linux systems

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2017	2017-01-01 00:00:00 UTC	2018-01-01 00:00:00 UTC	5	1	4
2018	2018-01-01 00:00:00 UTC	2019-01-01 00:00:00 UTC	1	0	1
2019	2019-01-01 00:00:00 UTC	2020-01-01 00:00:00 UTC	0	0	0
2020	2020-01-01 00:00:00 UTC	2021-01-01 00:00:00 UTC	0	0	0
2021	2021-01-01 00:00:00 UTC	2022-01-01 00:00:00 UTC	3	0	3

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newpavlov·Sep 8, 2021

I really hope that we will get a libc-free Linux target. Mustang/rsix looks like a great step in this direction, similarly to steed (https://github.com/japaric/steed) before it. But I think that ideally it should be done properly in Rust proper, not in outside projects. Here a relevant issue, but there is not much progress on it: https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/issues/2610

In Rust programs written entirely in Rust

littlestymaar·Mar 9, 2021

Not until the glibc too gets rewritten in Rust ;) A project existed[1], but was abandoned since then, so I don't think it will happen anytime soon. [1]: https://github.com/japaric/steed

In Debian Running on Rust Coreutils

roblabla·Feb 3, 2021

At least for rust, a librs would be hard to create due to the lack of a stable ABI. So even if you did a pure rust libstd (like the now defunct Steed[0]), you'd still need to either manually link that libc (breaking the mitigation), or rebuild your program each time the distro updates either libstd or the rust compiler. I'm not sure what the situation for Go is. Assuming Go has proper support for dynamic loading and a stable ABI, it would be doable. [0]: https://github.com/japaric/steed

In Go 1.16 will make system calls through Libc on OpenBSD

wyldfire·Mar 8, 2018

Also of interest is japaric's steed [1] -- a rust standard library (not a "C lib"). [1] https://github.com/japaric/steed

In Relibc: C Library in Rust for Redox and Linux

knowThySelfx·Aug 25, 2017

Thanks Steve. >It's not always possible, but on systems where it is, there's some ability to do so, see https://github.com/japaric/steed Doesn't linking to it make a Rust program "unsafe", in the Rust sense? Or my understanding is probably not correct.

In D as a Better C

steveklabnik·Aug 24, 2017

> Wonder whats happening with Redox. They've been involved in Google Summer of Code, and so have had lots of status update posts lately, here's the latest: https://redox-os.org/news/gsoc-self-hosting-final/ > Rust should move away from C standard library, if possible. It's not always possible, but on systems where it is, there's some ability to do so, see https://github.com/japaric/steed

In D as a Better C

wyldfire·Mar 27, 2017

> I know there's a sentiment here on HN against C I think there's two major against-C groups: those of us who have worked with C for decades and those who never worked with it. I'll try and speak for those of us who've used it for decades. The popular high-level languages that have arrived since ~1995 (Java, Python, JS, C# and friends) are excellent productivity increases. In general, they sacrifice memory and performance in favor of robustness and security. For enormous software problem domains, we just don't need C's complexity or error-proneness. Until Rust, there's been very close to zero serious competitors for C if I wanted to write a bootloader, OS, or ISR. Not even C++ could do those (without being extremely creative on how it's built/used). The ~post-2000 languages (golang, swift, D etc) can't do that (perhaps D's an excepti

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on but it wasn't an initial goal AFAICT). This is huge, IMO. We've groaned and grumbled about how hard it is to parse C/C++ code for decades. This is a big deal for tooling. Because of the language's design, even if you use something "simple" like libclang to parse your code, you still have to reproduce the entire build context just to sanely make an AST. All of those other new languages above probably address this problem but also add all kinds of other stuff which we can't have for specialized problem domains (realtime/low-latency requirements, OSs, etc). > collection of ... software not going to be rewritten in eg. Rust or some (lets face it) esoteric/niche FP language IMO it's not appropriate to lump Rust in with "nice FP language"s. And don't look now but lots of stuff is being rewritten in Rust. Fundamental this-is-the-OS-at-its-root stuff: coreutils [1], "libc" [2], kernels [3], browser engines [4]. [1] https://github.com/uutils/coreutils [2] https://github.com/japaric/steed [3] https://github.com/redox-os [4] https://github.com/servo/servo

In Curl is C

wyldfire·Jan 31, 2017

BTW Jorge Aparicio is working on a std that doesn't need a libc [1], at least for those supported platforms. [1] https://github.com/japaric/steed

In Don't setenv in multi-threaded code on glibc

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Steed: Rust's standard library, free of C dependencies, for Linux systems

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