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Hey! Thanks for the comment and that's really cool! Your product looks really slick as well! Would you mind posting in this "who's using kea" issue about versoly as well? https://github.com/keajs/kea/issues/35

I'm someone who through sheer coincidence (the right projects at the right time) happened/lucked into developing a React state management solution (https://kea.js.org). I've probably sunk hundreds of hours into this project by now. 5 hours before this HN post I asked for comparisons with different site management libraries on Github here: https://github.com/keajs/kea/issues/106 React state management is indeed a mess, meaning there are so many options to choose from. Unfortunately, even for me, a library author, it's hard to evaluate all of them properly. It would take just too much time and you never know where the real problems in any framework lay before you get neck-deep in code. And then you're too far to switch to another framework anyway. Someone should really map out this landscape in more depth than just an awesome list. I hope t

Depends on what your definition of "magic" is. For example, we specifically have a "Reducing Boilerplate" docs page [0] that talks about writing reusable logic for reducers and action creators, like "higher order reducers" or a `createReducer()` util that accepts a lookup table of action types to handler functions. There's many existing libs that implement this kind of pattern [1]. Beyond that, there's other libraries that provide a higher level of abstraction, like automatically generating logic to handle common use cases (normalizing data, updating certain fields, etc) [2]. Updating data immutably can become complex [3], so there's a lot of immutable update utility libraries out there [4]. I recommend Immer [5], which lets you write normal mutative code but then applies the updates immutably. Finally, there's frameworks built on top o

Here's the links for all those things mentioned if you don't want to have to look them up like I did: https://github.com/erikras/ducks-modular-redux https://github.com/keajs/kea https://redux-tiles.js.org/ https://github.com/TheComfyChair/redux-scc https://github.com/reduxactions/redux-actions

Good post and an interesting comparison with some intriguing parallels. FWIW, this was previously discussed at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10381015 (126 comments). Also, related sidenote: I'm a Redux maintainer, and I love seeing what people are building with Redux and on top of Redux. Per the author's comments about later abstractions on top of WndProc, there's been a lot of interesting abstractions built on top of Redux, ranging from reusable reducer logic to higher-level libraries that try to simplify some of the setup process. I actually just gave a talk yesterday at ReactBoston on the growth of the Redux ecosystem, which showcases some of the variety of Redux-related tools and addons that are out there [0] [1]. In particular, libraries like Kea [2], Redux-Subspace [3] and Redux-Tiles [4] try to make it easier to define an