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KEEP
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Kotlin / KEEP

KEEP

Kotlin Evolution and Enhancement Process

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26Mentions
0Explicit recommenders
3.8KGitHub stars
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Kotlin Evolution and Enhancement Process

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This week on Hacker News

Nov 8–Nov 15 UTC · Direct repository links and separately labeled related project stories. Indexed through 11/15/2026, 2:04:58 PM UTC.

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Mentions over time

HN mentions by year26 dated mentions

Observed mentions: 2016-04-20 17:18:24 UTC to 2026-05-22 00:03:58 UTC.

012342016-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2017-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 2 mentions; 1 submissions, 1 comments20162017-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2018-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2018-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2019-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 1 mentions; 0 submissions, 1 comments2019-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2020-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 1 mentions; 0 submissions, 1 comments2020-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2021-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 3 mentions; 0 submissions, 3 comments2021-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2022-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 3 mentions; 1 submissions, 2 comments20212022-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2023-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 3 mentions; 1 submissions, 2 comments2023-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2024-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 3 mentions; 0 submissions, 3 comments2024-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2025-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 2 mentions; 0 submissions, 2 comments2025-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2026-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 4 mentions; 1 submissions, 3 comments2026-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2027-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 4 mentions; 1 submissions, 3 comments. Incomplete calendar period.2026*

* An incomplete calendar period is marked with an outlined bar. Its count is not directly comparable with a full period.

Counts come from the repository’s dated source evidence. Index cutoff: 2026-11-02 08:16:59 UTC.

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PeriodStart (UTC)End (exclusive, UTC)MentionsSubmissionsComments
20162016-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2017-01-01 00:00:00 UTC211
20172017-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2018-01-01 00:00:00 UTC000
20182018-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2019-01-01 00:00:00 UTC101
20192019-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2020-01-01 00:00:00 UTC101
20202020-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2021-01-01 00:00:00 UTC303
20212021-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2022-01-01 00:00:00 UTC312
20222022-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2023-01-01 00:00:00 UTC312
20232023-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2024-01-01 00:00:00 UTC303
20242024-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2025-01-01 00:00:00 UTC202
20252025-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2026-01-01 00:00:00 UTC413
2026 (partial)2026-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2027-01-01 00:00:00 UTC413

What Hacker News says

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I'm sorry but this looks like an ad-hoc black or white thinking. Language design is made of tradeoffs e.g between features and complexity. However contrary to popular opinion, I'd say that Kotlin actually has almost all Scala features and notably has important features that Scala does not (such as coroutines, reified generics, compile time safe tail recursive, etc) The most unique Scala feature seems to be implicits. While I'm not convinced by their usefulness, the feature will be available in Kotlin in a few months: https://github.com/Kotlin/KEEP/issues/259 I'd even argue it is more useful in Kotlin since the language is state of the art regarding it's ability toward making DSLs. The major features that Scala 3 has that Kotlin does not that I can identify are: 1) Pattern matching -> Kotlin is almost there, it has destructuring, a when co
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ntrol structure, and can express ADTs via sealed classes/interfaces. The limitations are: name based destructuring is not implemented. No destructuring in when blocks. However since java will be getting extensive pattern matching support in jdk 19/20 I expect Kotlin to catch up there and I recognize pattern matching can be a very useful feature. 2) union types and intersection types. While those are useful in a structurally typed language such as typescript, I don't see much usefulness for them in Kotlin. You can express union types via sealed classes somehow. The compiler plugin arrow meta brings union type support but I haven't tested it yet. As for intersection types it is on the roadmap. The main usefulness of union types I can see are the union of exceptions in catch blocks, that BTW Java supports, surprisingly. 3) higher kinded types I don't see much usefulness in higher kinder types What else could their use be beyond abstracting over collections? Every Kotlin collection implement the interface Collection<T> which enable this use case. Again, higher kinded types are supported by the arrow-meta compiler plugin. To me the very few pain points of Kotlin have nothing to do with functional features but are: 1) Inability to deflare a function parameter as mutable. Inability to declare for loop element as mutable. Which in fact are because of IMHO religious functional toxic beliefs about immutability everywhere. 2) no package private modifier (although java 9 modules are supported and they are working on the issue)
In State of Valhalla
Yes and no: https://github.com/Kotlin/KEEP/blob/master/notes/value-class... "value class" is the next step for inline classes. They are going to behave very much like Swift's struct and its "mutating methods". And they are going to be "Valhalla ready" so we'll get the performance improvements automatically when it lands. In a sense, they are an upgraded data class with a much more precise and controlled form of mutation. Rather than a `var` field meaning the object will mutate in-place, it will basically automatically call a kind of (implicit) "copy()" method. Further, you may only mutate these `var` fields inside of class methods that are marked with a new keyword: `mutating`. Read through the KEEP. It's pretty interesting stuff. At first it kind of rubbed me the wrong way, but the more I thought about it, the more excited I got about it
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- especially after thinking about how Swift does it and it works well there.
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