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matrix-spec

The Matrix protocol specification

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The Matrix protocol specification

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I love the concept behind the Matrix protocol, but I have zero faith in the Matrix Foundations ability to execute. Folks have been asking for financial tranparency for years…

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That's .well-known based delegation, which was proposed in MSC1708 in Nov 2017: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/blob/old... and merged into the spec in Jan 2019 (prior to Matrix 1.0 in June 2019): https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec/commit/0347e873efc... So yes, fully-baked and part of Matrix since 1.0! Next Gen Auth via OIDC is instead a key part of the (upcoming) Matrix 2.0 spec release - see https://areweoidcyet.com and https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/pull/386...
In Matrix.org Will Migrate to MAS
ensignavenger·Feb 20, 2025Recommendation phrase
I love the concept behind the Matrix protocol, but I have zero faith in the Matrix Foundations ability to execute. Folks have been asking for financial tranparency for years now (https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec/issues/571#issueco...). And all that we get are posts like this complainging about not having enough money and threatening to shut things down, repeatedly. Maybe if they were more open and transparent, folks could help get them on the right track, either by making recomendations to improve, volunteering to help with things, or contributeing financially. I really want them to succeed, but this has been going on for years now.
In Matrix Foundation to shut down bridges if it doesn't raise $100K
I'm the author of the spec issue this blog post is based on: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec/issues/852 In my implementation for the Conduit Matrix server, the /sync order is used for everything. The timeline is just one list that grows on one end for incoming events and on the other end for backfilled events. I think it's important that the message order does not change, because that's very difficult to communicate to the user.
In Message order in Matrix: right now, we are deliberately inconsistent
Hi there! Managing Director of the Foundation here. First, yes, the response times have not been great, though of course that's all been on the basis of volunteerism. Now that there's a full-time staffer you should expect better response times. Regarding the payments to Element: those are based on the many services for which we still rely on Element. The Foundation has a Master Services Agreement (MSA) with Element which includes administrative services, operation of the matrix.org homeserver, and secondment of several personnel whose responsibilities include advocacy, program management, standards work, and trust and safety. The MSA also includes provisions for the Foundation to reimburse Element for any bills they pay on our behalf. More details and context in my official reply: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec/issues/571#issue
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In Financial situation of the Matrix.org Foundation
Hi there! I'm the Managing Director of the Foundation. That owing balance is down to the many services for which we rely on Element. The Foundation has a Master Services Agreement (MSA) with Element which includes administrative services, operation of the matrix.org homeserver, and secondment of several personnel whose responsibilities include advocacy, program management, standards work, and trust and safety. The MSA also includes provisions for the Foundation to reimburse Element for any bills they pay on our behalf. More details and context in my official reply: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec/issues/571#issueco... Happy to address any other concerns or questions you may have.
In Financial situation of the Matrix.org Foundation
I've published my official response over on GitHub, where I provide context and answer the specific questions the OP has asked: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec/issues/571#issueco... I'm copying the first part of my response here for y'all's convenience: Hi @alohapersona, I’ve included answers to your specific questions below, but first I wanted to share some context. You can expect the Matrix.org Foundation to grow and evolve like other open source foundations, in terms of incrementally staffing up, increasing transparency and community governance, and establishing programs that support the ecosystem. There are a lot of great examples we can learn from, though the manner in which we are starting adds some complexity. It’s a lot cleaner to start with a small balance and some IP than to inherit massive pre-existing commitments lik
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e running the matrix.org homeserver. The added complexity also makes things more difficult, and it’s fair to say the path to now has reflected that difficulty level. The Foundation hit a key milestone this year when it delivered on its promise to make its first hire. If you look at the landscape and the history, you’ll find that the first hire makes a radical difference in delivering on the kinds of things I see you’ve been seeking for the last four years. Setting expectations So, I’d like to set some expectations. The Foundation’s fiscal year, as you know by now, runs from November 1 to October 31, and it takes time to close the books. Especially when we’re still separating out our infrastructure and relying on people for whom the Foundation isn’t their first priority. After we close our books, two things happen: we send them off to the tax accountants, and I begin preparing our annual report. That annual report will cover revenue, expenses, and programmatic activity, all contextualized with our vision and where we are on the path to realizing our vision. The timeline is a little fuzzy, but I’d expect that annual report to land around March or April. And we should expect further maturation/normalization of process each successive year: when we seat our first elected Governing Board in 2024 Q2, I’ll finally have a board of community representatives to review and approve my budget! With that, we’ll start to see both a public budget before each financial year begins, and an annual report after it ends. Getting involved Ultimately, the project is to build this Foundation up into an independent, transparent, self-sustaining organization with community-driven governance at every layer. We will need continued mutual accountability to stay the course on the way to achieving that vision. To wit, I welcome call-ins and incisive questions, and also stress the need to be charitable with each other. This work is hard, it is painfully incremental, and it happens over the scale of years and decades. I do not, however, welcome escalation to Hacker News with bad faith editorializing, which brings out the worst in people and leaves me wasting time confronting FUD rather than tending to forward-looking work that truly serves the community. Starting fires like that isn’t helpful. For those who are invested in Matrix and want greater visibility into the Foundation’s activities, I invite you to join the Office of the Matrix.org Foundation room I launched last month. We have a lovely community of people there who provide input, offer accountability, and join together to celebrate even the small successes on our collective journey to organizational maturity and self-governance. I hope this helps you and all those who read this to understand where we are, where we are going, why things are the way they are, and how to get involved. With gratitude, Josh Simmons Managing Director of the Matrix.org Foundation ad astra per aspera
In Financial situation of the Matrix.org Foundation
I'm very curious to see this point addressed: > According to the statement, the book value of cryptocurrency assets did not change between Oct 31, 2021 and Oct 31, 2022. This is questionable, to say it mild, given that there have been incoming cryptocurrency transactions publicly visible on the respective published blockchain addresses of The Matrix.org Foundation. https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec/issues/571#issueco...
In Financial situation of the Matrix.org Foundation

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