yari

I already do, but Mozilla has already drunken the AI kool-aid [0][1]. [0] https://github.com/mdn/yari/issues/9208 [1] https://github.com/mdn/yari/issues/9230

Except it gets mostly everything wrong, even very simple things that are on the page itself. https://github.com/mdn/yari/issues/9208

You mean like this very helpful instance where it just makes shit up that directly contradicts the docs that are on the exact page it's on? https://github.com/mdn/yari/issues/9208

MDN implemented an "AI explains" feature, and the reception is extremely negative. https://github.com/mdn/yari/issues/9208

Another related issue: The AI help button is very good but it links to a feature that should not exist https://github.com/mdn/yari/issues/9230

> a result of things like chatgpt and llm augmented documentation pages. You mean like this? https://github.com/mdn/yari/issues/9208 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36542267

> “So it tells you wrong answers? Sounds utterly pointless”. I was flabbergasted. Could you tell a bit more about why this objection surprised you so much? I am often seeing this in the same tech circles that rejected the web3 craze; and I have to confess, it does sound reasonable to me. There is a recent PR opened in the MDN docs repository after MDN added the "AI explain" button, pointing out how utterly useless a AI guide is if it gives you incorrect answers and you do not have enough knowledge to catch it [0]. [0] - https://github.com/mdn/yari/issues/9208

FWIW, OWD writes open source technical content and is not responsible for the design of MDN nor the blog, ads, or login and membership features of the site. That is done by Mozilla. The OWD team writes technical documentation on APIs, HTML, and JS. OWD also works on information architecture and browser compatibility data. They contribute mainly to https://github.com/mdn/content/ and https://github.com/mdn/browser-compat-data/. Mozilla, not OWD, is responsible for Yari, the platform behind MDN Web Docs (https://github.com/mdn/yari). The MDN blog, ads, AI and design, the MDN infrastructure, are fully owned and controlled by Mozilla. I know some folks who work on this content and TBH it’s the folks we’d want working on this content.

MDN core maintainer confused, to revert: https://github.com/mdn/yari/issues/9208#issuecomment-1615411...

I got 404 with OP link. I think it should be pointed to https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/advertising? Related PR: https://github.com/mdn/yari/pull/8213 Also, the ads has been added to EasyList: https://github.com/easylist/easylist/commit/f02f2264cdc4122c...

Instead of creating a new tool to convert MDN's content into HTML, it would probably be easier to modify the official tool, Yari, in order to produce web page with more compatible (and faster) CSS & JS. https://github.com/mdn/yari But I don't think it would be useful unless MDN merges in the changes. My daily web browser struggles with the new MDN rendering unless JS is disabled. So I've lost a few features since the "design change", notably I cannot run the examples. Would I use a cloned site that's faster and where CSS&JS are more compatible? I would loose the external search I'm used to (DuckDuckGo !mdn), so using the clone would require a few changes on my side...

Opened a bug: https://github.com/mdn/yari/issues/5421

Ok I added styles that I am using for the site, I included Before and After screenshots, see link https://github.com/mdn/yari/issues/5389