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The new Windows Terminal and the original Windows console host, all in the same place!
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What it is
The new Windows Terminal and the original Windows console host, all in the same place!
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Where it is used
- Visual Studio — Visual Studio uses Windows Terminal’s core to power its integrated terminal, providing a more robust terminal experience and faster adoption of new functionality. Source
What people are saying
A quick off-the-cuff remark based solely on the title: in 2024, I think the state of the terminal has never been better, in large part to Microsoft making a high quality…
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| 2018 | 2018-01-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2019-01-01 00:00:00 UTC | 10 | 0 | 10 |
| 2019 | 2019-01-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2020-01-01 00:00:00 UTC | 45 | 12 | 33 |
| 2020 | 2020-01-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2021-01-01 00:00:00 UTC | 54 | 6 | 48 |
| 2021 | 2021-01-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2022-01-01 00:00:00 UTC | 56 | 7 | 49 |
| 2022 | 2022-01-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2023-01-01 00:00:00 UTC | 47 | 4 | 43 |
| 2023 | 2023-01-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2024-01-01 00:00:00 UTC | 29 | 6 | 23 |
| 2024 | 2024-01-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2025-01-01 00:00:00 UTC | 13 | 1 | 12 |
| 2025 | 2025-01-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2026-01-01 00:00:00 UTC | 9 | 0 | 9 |
| 2026 (partial) | 2026-01-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2027-01-01 00:00:00 UTC | 7 | 1 | 6 |
What Hacker News says
29 sourcesWRwredue·Dec 15, 2023
Microsoft’s new terminal application rendered text extremely slowly, like 10 minutes to cat 1gb of text slow.
Casey submitted a bug saying that it’s slow and should be much much faster.
Microsoft responded something like “text is hard … … phd dissertation on rendering text”
Casey made a terminal renderer with more features than Microsoft’s renderer in a weekend, it performed orders of magnitude faster, had zero optimization work performed and he jokingly (and hilariously) titled the video “a phd dissertation”.
Next, the excuse parade rolled in and came up with all manner of excuses as to why Muratoris renderer was so much faster, so he made a follow up video addressing the excuse parade, as well as containing some very minor optimization.
Also note that Casey’s implementation isn’t even as fast as things could be. His optimizations are mi
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Assume its related to this:
https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/10362
It's nothing serious just microsoft engineers writing slow as shit code and reacting poorly to someone trying to help.
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Source: https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/discussions/16440#disc...
In Should Windows have a default CLI editor?Should Windows have a default CLI editor?
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3 points · Open discussionDefault Windows CLI Text Editor (Neovim, Nano, Edit)
1 points · Open discussionNo answer is forthcoming from the VS Code team, because they know you won't like the answer.
Microsoft trawls their[1] endpoints mercilessly for every bit of telemetry that they possibly can, and they go out of their way to prevent customers from disabling this.
Windows 10 or 11 with Office requires something like 200+ individual forms of Microsoft telemetry to be disabled!
Notably:
- They keep changing the name of the environment variables[2] that disable telemetry. For unspecified "reasons".
- They've been caught using "typosquatting" domains like microsft.com for telemetry, because security-conscious admins block microsoft.com wholesale.
- Telemetry is implemented by each product group, which means each individual team has to learn the same lessons over and over, such as: GDPR compliance, asynchronous collection, size limiting, do not
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retry in a tight loop forever on network failure, etc...
- Customers often experience dramatic speedups by disabling telemetry, which ought not be possible, but that's the reality. Turning off telemetry was "the" trick to making PowerShell Core fast in VS Code, because it literally sent telemetry (synchronously!) from all of: Dotnet Core, PowerShell, the Az/AAD modules, and Visual Studio Code! Opening a new tab would take seconds while this was collected, zipped, and sent. Windows Terminal does the same thing, by the way, so opening a shell can result in like half a dozen network requests to god-knows-where.
[1] You thought, wait... that it's your computer!? It's Microsoft's ad-platform now.
[2] Notice the plural? It's one company! Why can't there be a single globally-obeyed policy setting for this? Oh... oh... because they don't want you to have this setting. That's right... I forgot.
Windows: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/configure-...
PowerShell: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/microsof...
DotNet Core: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/tools/telemetr...
Windows Terminal: https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/5331
Az module: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/microsoft.azure...
Etc...
Also, Microsoft has their own new terminal program.
https://github.com/microsoft/terminal
In Contour: Modern and fast terminal emulatorLooks like there's some discussion about the first one in the GitHub repo:
https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/15939
In Windows Terminal Preview 1.19Release notes can be found here: https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/releases/tag/v1.19.268...
Some highlights:
* Broadcast input to all the panes in a tab
* Unfocused acrylic support
* A new suggestions menu, for intellisense-like completions
* moving the cursor with the mouse
* emoji in CMD (and any other application that uses the built-in COOKED_READ)
In Windows Terminal Preview 1.19I feel like you are really under-selling that entire drama. It started with Casey pointing out some slow terminal behavior[0], to which he received unreasonable flack, including this choice quote,
>I believe what you’re doing is describing something that might be considered an entire doctoral research project in performant terminal emulation as “extremely simple” somewhat combatively…
Casey then spent a weekend and produced a couple thousand line terminal emulator which seemed feature complete(? probably missing some bells and whistles), but blew away Windows performance.
A year later, Microsoft released a patch, roughly incorporating some of Casey's suggestions, and did not credit him for anything[1].
Edit: This[2] seems to be the much bigger Hacker News discussion about the topic instead of [1]. If nothing else, [2] has a repeatedly edi
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ted post by the Microsoft author where attitudes are on full display.
[0] https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/10362
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31372606
[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31284419
No. Something much better. https://github.com/microsoft/terminal
In Microsoft is killing WordPad in WindowsI suppose the writer will have to wait a few more years before apple 'reinvents' the touch screen and convinces everyone they invented the touchscreen laptop. Notice how just about every other manufacture has a touch screen offering. The same was true for DVD writers back when apple called it the super drive. Many devices on the market came with DVD writers.
The ipad pro as great as it is, will not replace a Macbook. Sure it can do similar things, but for professionals who only need one app and email for work or for grandmas that don't need much it certainly can be the only device. But it cannot do everything that a laptop can do and that's why most people need both a (tablet and a computer)
The surface pro devices are on their 9th generation. This is what you want if you want to travel with a tablet only experience that you are able to d
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o laptop stuff with. Sure the tablet experience is miserable but tolerable. The only things mac users are missing is IOS/MacOS. Which I admit is a big miss. Let's be honest, the Mac OS is great it's always been the hardware that has been lacking in other areas. But the surface device is a full blown computer that runs a full desktop OS and can virtualize others. If your workflow allows for a windows device,and if you like learning and trying new stuff, you will most likely enjoy your experience. Otherwise you will be as miserable as a die hard windows user who is angry that CTRL+V is CMD+V. If devtools are the only thing keeping you with macOS then you owe it to yourself to checkout WSL[1] and the new windows terminal app[2].
[1] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install
[2] https://github.com/microsoft/terminal
Yeah, just Windows Terminal: https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/
In Terminal Support for Emoji> If anyone else remembers this incident and can link to a source that'd be great for my sanity.
This incident was Casey Muratori raising an issue about Windows Terminal performance:
https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/10362
https://twitter.com/cmuratori/status/1522471966929653761
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