WIwinkelmann·Apr 2, 2024
Completely benign documentation change to fix a typo: https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/cpp-docs/pull/4716
I have no idea what that IP address is supposed to be about...
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11 sourcesThe contribution to C++ is just a simple markdown change: https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/cpp-docs/pull/4716 C++ is fine.
In Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server compromiseI don't think you need to worry about the C++ contribution: https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/cpp-docs/commit/9a96311122a...
In Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server compromiseIt looks like it was declared in Nov 21, and in May 23 they merged in the "fix" by adding "it's approximate" to the docs ( https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/cpp-docs/commit/447b5d8a781... ), so not sure this is the best approach for actual bugs.
In Bug in reader/writer locks in Windows APIThe best way I know of to report bugs to windows is report them as documentation bugs. see for example https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/cpp-docs/pull/3526.
In Bug in reader/writer locks in Windows APIIt's broken in MSVC and mingw (in different ways). See https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/cpp-docs/pull/3526.
In Correctness and composability bugs in the Julia ecosystemNow can you get Microsoft to fix their broken implementation of FMA? (see https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/cpp-docs/pull/3526 for details)
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- https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/cpp-docs/blob/master/docs/p...
- https://stackoverflow.com/questions/57528555/how-do-i-build-...
In LLVM 13.0> To me they are not distinct enough as languages to truly be considered fully separate
There are plenty of subtle differences, precisely because they aren't the same language. [0][1] They're deeply connected, but there are important differences between them, and it doesn't do to gloss over the details. For instance, empty structs are permitted in C++ but might get you into trouble in C. [2]
> they use the same compiler
Many of the major compiler suites support lots of different languages. You can compile Fortran, C, and C++ code using LLVM, GCC, ICC, or even OpenWatcom. So what?
It's true that where you find a C++ compiler, you generally find a C compiler, but the converse does not hold. The TCC C compiler doesn't support C++, for instance. The same goes for many of the more obscure C compilers out there.
Also, sometimes a compiler suite
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will have solid support for C++ but poor support for C. If you want to do modern C++ programming on Windows you might use MSVC, but MSVC has surprisingly awful support for C. [3]
> We should all be free to write our own programs the way we want and not have to worry about standard practices or cultures.
Disagree. It can improve quality to use strict coding-standards and a strict language. Software development is not about maximising creative freedom, it's about effectively developing high-quality solutions, see [4]. This is the reason software in safety-critical domains like avionics is never free-form, it invariably uses highly restrictive coding-standards like MISRA C, or highly restrictive languages like SPARK Ada.
(Hope that wasn't too off-topic, my points there don't pertain whether a 'language' should be understood to include its conventions.)
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatibility_of_C_and_C%2B%2B
[1] https://stackoverflow.com/a/21515839/
[2] https://stackoverflow.com/a/755339/
[3] https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/cpp-docs/issues/407
[4] https://www.fastcompany.com/28121/they-write-right-stuff
Visual Studio is C++ orientated and the C support is somewhat behind. https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/cpp-docs/issues/407 (admittedly, 2018)
Realistically the paying subset of users of a language is always going to be a small number of people.
In Your First THINK C Programhttps://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/cpp-docs/blob/master/docs/c...
> Multiple function templates that match the argument list of a function call can be available. C++ defines a partial ordering of function templates to specify which function should be called. The ordering is partial because there can be some templates that are considered equally specialized.
> The compiler chooses the most specialized template function available from the possible matches.
And it goes on to give an example.
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