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tim333·Dec 24, 2016

For math type benchmarks of the order of 2-10x slower http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/u64q/erlang.html For this web framework test Phoenix (Elixir) does almost as well as Play (Java) https://github.com/mroth/phoenix-showdown The benchmarksgame's site quotes "Most (all?) large systems developed using Erlang make heavy use of C for low-level code, leaving Erlang to manage the parts which tend to be complex in other languages, like controlling systems spread across several machines and implementing complex protocol logic." So it depends I guess.

In Why the Elixir language has great potential

angersock·Dec 7, 2016

The second time was a result of my inability to get the CTO to move off of an ancient version (0.10) of NodeJS--our web frontend could've been quite happy as a Rails or Sinatra app and we could've made great use of ActiveRecord for some of the early problems we tried to solve. However, the realtime component of the system (streaming data to the browser) was implemented using websockets through Node and even if we had Rails for that we still would've kept that part in Node. I would've loved to have kept Ruby around just for scripting and munging, but since it was also a Windows shop (uggggh) I found it more expedient to just move things over to Javascript. The things that I did manage to take from Rails were view helpers for things like generating links, certain types of buttons and forms, and that sort of thing. We ended up doing a lot of

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reporting and that ended up in boring old SQL, but that would've been the case with Rails too. Today, I'm still a bit faster hacking in JS than I would be getting the rust off of my Ruby...so if I needed to do a spike, I'd do it in Node/Express/pg-node--again, that's just personal skill and speed, your mileage may vary. From a testability standpoint, I think the two ecosystems are about on par (finally), with a slight edge for Ruby. Either one is a fine choice, but if you don't need realtime (websockets) stuff, I think you'll probably just enjoy Ruby more. That said: For starting a new project today, I would use Elixir. I value the already-reasonable testing story. I value the general quality of the ecosystem packages and conservatism (good taste, sorely lacking in Node). I especially value that, as a compiled language, it can catch a lot more of my stupid. I also value that it is conservatively 10x using Phoenix than Rails ( https://github.com/mroth/phoenix-showdown ), and does so while having a much more compelling functional and reliability story than I see in Ruby without slowness-inducing metaprogramming tricks. For the prototype architecture I favor, monolith + a few microservices, that efficiency means I don't have to worry about ops stuff as much at the start. At the end of the day, though, go to war with the framework that you are most comfortable with or the one that most clearly matches the problem space of your domain. For me, that used to be Ruby. For you or somebody else, it still might be--and that's a great thing!

In Ask HN: What server side language/framework did you choose and why?

andy_ppp·Nov 13, 2016

I've been wrong on here before but I've never just invented stuff without facts... https://github.com/mroth/phoenix-showdown/blob/master/README...

In Ruby 3x3: Matz, Koichi, and Tenderlove on the Future of Ruby Performance

claudiojulio·Oct 13, 2016Submission

Phoenix Framework Benchmark

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iamd3vil·Aug 21, 2016

Go has more performance if there is some number crunching work but if it comes to APIs or web applications, I don't think so. That techempower benchmark for Phoenix is seriously flawed [3]. We use Elixir in production and according to our benchmarks, the performance is very close to Go or sometimes even better. We also use Plug (which is used by Phoenix underneath) directly if it is just a small API. These benchmarks relates more to our experience. [1] [2] 1. https://github.com/mroth/phoenix-showdown/blob/master/RESULT... 2. https://gist.github.com/omnibs/e5e72b31e6bd25caf39a 3. https://groups.google.com/d/msg/phoenix-talk/hljH55fsqqw/eFX...

In What Golang Is and Is Not

clessg·Aug 4, 2016

Looks very nice. I hope it gains momentum. For now, if you want a fast language with the beauty and productivity of Ruby, check out Elixir [0] and its web framework, Phoenix [1]. I've been using Phoenix for a year, and it's the first framework that I've actually liked more over time. And I've been a web developer for a decade. With its recent 1.0 release, Phoenix is gaining a lot of momentum. If you want some idea of the performance differences between Phoenix and Rails, see [2] and [3]. [0] http://elixir-lang.org/ [1] http://www.phoenixframework.org/ [2] https://github.com/mroth/phoenix-showdown/blob/master/RESULT... [3] http://www.phoenixframework.org/blog/the-road-to-2-million-w...

In Crystal: Fast as C, Slick as Ruby

shadeless·Apr 22, 2016

IIRC there were some issues in how Phoenix was configured for the techempower benchmarks, I expect that it will have much better results in the next one. You may want to look at these benchmarks also: https://github.com/mroth/phoenix-showdown https://gist.github.com/omnibs/e5e72b31e6bd25caf39a Here is a post about using 2 million active websockets connections in Phoenix: http://www.phoenixframework.org/blog/the-road-to-2-million-w... From my experience, Rails and Phoenix speed isn't comparable. Even in development mode (with code-reloading etc) Phoenix is much faster than a production Rails server. I've also replaced three Node.js servers with one Elixir server which did the same work with less memory and CPU usage, but I'm aware that most rewrites have a similar story, so I won't claim that this is enough proof.

In Ask HN: Is Golang mature enough for FinTech startups?

rgawdzik·Feb 10, 2016

For anyone new to Elixir and is interested in it's performance, check out: https://github.com/mroth/phoenix-showdown tldr: It rivals Go in performance.

In Elixir-mail – Build composable mail messages

rgawdzik·Jan 19, 2016

+1 to that, it has comparable performance to Gin! https://github.com/mroth/phoenix-showdown

In The Rails Doctrine