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naftaliharris
tauthon
Python2016–2024
naftaliharris / tauthon

tauthon

Fork of Python 2.7 with new syntax, builtins, and libraries backported from Python 3.

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Fork of Python 2.7 with new syntax, builtins, and libraries backported from Python 3.

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Observed mentions: 2016-11-27 13:29:09 UTC to 2024-11-25 22:31:46 UTC.

0510152016-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2017-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 6 mentions; 2 submissions, 4 comments20162017-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2018-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 12 mentions; 2 submissions, 10 comments2018-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2019-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 5 mentions; 0 submissions, 5 comments2019-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2020-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 13 mentions; 1 submissions, 12 comments2020-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2021-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 14 mentions; 1 submissions, 13 comments20202021-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2022-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 2 mentions; 0 submissions, 2 comments2022-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2023-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 1 mentions; 0 submissions, 1 comments2023-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2024-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 1 mentions; 0 submissions, 1 comments2024-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2025-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 2 mentions; 0 submissions, 2 comments2024

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20162016-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2017-01-01 00:00:00 UTC624
20172017-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2018-01-01 00:00:00 UTC12210
20182018-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2019-01-01 00:00:00 UTC505
20192019-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2020-01-01 00:00:00 UTC13112
20202020-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2021-01-01 00:00:00 UTC14113
20212021-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2022-01-01 00:00:00 UTC202
20222022-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2023-01-01 00:00:00 UTC101
20232023-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2024-01-01 00:00:00 UTC101
20242024-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2025-01-01 00:00:00 UTC202

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This guy wasn't maintaining Python, he as creating a new version incompatible with either Python 2.7 or Python 3. Red Hat and other large companies have maintained Python for years after 2.7 died (EOL date was January 1st, 2020). IBM/Red Hat offer Python 2.7 including security fixes and bug fixes until 2024 (https://access.redhat.com/solutions/4455511). Had he just provided patches to Python 2.7, nobody would've batted an eye. Instead, they created an alternative language that was completely different (https://web.archive.org/web/20161210161837/https://www.nafta...). Founders and core devs indicated that the name was the only problem (https://github.com/naftaliharris/tauthon/issues/47#issuecomm...) and that even things like the header file names could continue to be named Python because of API compatibility. You can fork any open source p
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roject you like, but you still need to stick follow trademark law. You can't just release Linux 2.7 because you disagree with breaking changes in 3.0 either, but you're free to take the Linux code and release Twonux if you really care.
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WinAmp 2 (1998) was widely liked. WinAmp 3 (2002) was considered bloated, and flopped. So Nullsoft followed it up with WinAmp 5 – because 2+3=5 – in 2003, which was very broadly the codebase of WinAmp 2 (small and lean) plus the skin support from WinAmp 3 (the only part people liked). This won people back, and WinAmp is still around and got an update this year, 20 years on. I think it's too late for there to be a Python 5, but I did read a blog post long ago – which I can't find again, or I'd link to it – which proposed a similar compromise fix to Python, in considerable technical detail. I am with @blagie on this: the Python world handled the 2→3 transition spectacularly badly. V3 didn't deliver enough, and strong-arming people by just end-of-lifing Python 2 and expecting the world to move on was foolhardy and short-sighted. (And I don't
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even use the language myself. I'm just observing.) It's a real shame Tauthon didn't get more traction and support. https://github.com/naftaliharris/tauthon If it had got enough support and continued, maybe the Python maintainers would have learned something, but I've not seen any sign that they have. This is nothing new. For comparison, Perl 6 went so badly that Perl 5 now looks likely to continue as Perl 7: https://www.perl.com/article/announcing-perl-7/ And PHP 6 didn't really happen -- AFAICT as a total outsider, Unicode support proved too hard and it was never released; the community backported the important bits to PHP 5, and then a new PHP 7, more modest in scope, developed from PHP 5. The Python world could have done the same, and Tauthon was an effort in that direction. It's too late now. I suspect that, just as Perl has lost a massive amount of interest and use, partly from the nearly-two-decade-long effort to release Perl 5, Python has done the same -- sabotaged its own community with this high-handed "your leaders know best" approach.
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> It’s open source, you can fund some program to keep supporting python 2. No, actually, you can't - last time I checked, they were specifically threatening[0][1][others] to sue anyone who tried to continue developing Python for trademark infringement (despite that they are ones falsely using the trademark for something other what it got it's reputation from). 0: https://lwn.net/Articles/711092/ 1: https://github.com/naftaliharris/placeholder/issues/47
In Pip has dropped support for Python 2
Can you provide citations for your claims? The commentary in the github renaming issue from 2016(0) seems pretty jovial and has the tone of "oh, actually we should change that, oops" rather than "we WILL replace python!". The comments by guido and harris reinforce this perspective: > gvanrossum commented on Dec 10, 2016 > Since I was asked: The project's name (and its binary name) need to > change. They are misleading. The rest looks acceptable according to > Python's license. This is not an endorsement (far from it). > naftaliharris commented on Dec 10, 2016 > I don't mind renaming this project. Any other suggestions for good > names? I personally like "Pythonesque (/usr/bin/pesque)" the best so > far, thanks @dbohdan! :-) > > @VanL, not that I'm necessarily picking that, but would a name like
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> that be acceptable? When you're in a community or a space, actions that are unintentionally hostile towards that community or space, can be seen as intentionally hostile by the members, and if you only hear about it second-hand, or you spend a lot of time around the group, that belief can be reinforced through the discussions and gripes the group has about it(1). (0): https://github.com/naftaliharris/tauthon/issues/47 (1): That's not to say there aren't bona fide intentionally hostile actions that happen, but rather that's how actions that aren't intended to be hostile can be remembered and percieved as such.
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