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> Finally the upgrade is insane. Wait until you see the "solution" for dealing with the client mangling timestamps [1]. After you've been burned by server updates, and then burned by client updates, with solutions that push the problems onto the system admin, you start to wonder if using it in the first place was a mistake. IIRC, part of the reason they forked was because OwnCloud wasn't moving fast enough. My experience makes me think OwnCloud might have been right. 1. https://github.com/nextcloud/desktop/wiki/How-to-fix-the-err...

I guess it's fine if you want a widely integrated solution that can do a lot of different things. I'm using it only for myself, so definitely not representative of using it in a company but maybe my experience helps. The just working part, at least for me, are the calendar and contact plugins. Never had any issues with those. File sync with the desktop client works mostly fine on Linux where I use it most of the time. However, I've run into issues with it on Windows. Using the automatic bandwidth limit for example might cause Explorer to freeze. [1] Also forget about the automatic upload feature in the Android client, I switched to FolderSync for a reliable experience. I've managed to get OnlyOffice working, Collabora Office previously broke for some reason. However latest upgrade also broke OnlyOffice. The solution for this is to p

Nextcloud has had too many longstanding bugs like the one that mangles metadata, breaks sync, and requires server side intervention to fix [1]. I don’t trust them to do normal sync anymore. There’s no way I’d take the risk of letting them encrypt my data. They need to slow down on features before tech debt ruins their product (if it hasn’t already). 1. https://github.com/nextcloud/desktop/issues/4378

Remember when encryption just didn't work on subfolders, but they kept telling everyone it did? https://github.com/nextcloud/desktop/issues/816 Unless they've really cleaned up their act, nextcloud just isn't suitable for real data. I would pay _so_ much money for a correctly functioning WebDAV server, maintained by responsible professionals. EDIT: looks like they have _not_ cleaned up their act whatsoever: https://github.com/nextcloud/end_to_end_encryption/issues/38...

> I think the concept of federation being available to any software like Wordpress or Nextcloud is truly something we should treasure I think federation will struggle because everyone will be allowed to participate regardless of the quality of their software. Nextcloud is a good example. They keep adding features and making releases, but can’t fix nasty sync bugs that have been around for a year [1,2]. What’s the use of a federated platform that’s unreliable and unusable? 1. https://syncloud.discourse.group/t/disaster-with-nexcloud-3-... 2. https://github.com/nextcloud/desktop/issues/4378

This really happened a couple of months ago, and really sucks. There aren't that many alternatives to Dropbox if you require both Windows, Mac and Linux client support. I ended up settling on Nextcloud (ownCloud fork) hosted by Hetzner[1]. So far it's pretty good. Photo sync works from Phone works perfectly, and the desktop apps are decent enough. I did get bitten by a recursive folder-sync bug [2], which is certainly not of Dropbox quality but at least pull-requests are welcome. [1] https://www.hetzner.com/storage/nextcloud [2] https://github.com/nextcloud/desktop/issues/1000