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zuul

MOVED: Now at https://opendev.org/zuul/zuul

2Distinct people
3Mentions
0Explicit recommenders
191GitHub stars
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MOVED: Now at https://opendev.org/zuul/zuul

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This week on Hacker News

Nov 7–Nov 14 UTC · Direct repository links and separately labeled related project stories. Indexed through 11/14/2026, 12:54:37 PM UTC.

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Mentions over time

HN mentions by month3 dated mentions

Observed mentions: 2014-10-08 22:42:07 UTC to 2015-10-29 01:40:02 UTC.

0122014-10-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2014-11-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 1 mentions; 0 submissions, 1 commentsOct 20142014-11-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2014-12-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2014-12-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2015-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2015-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2015-02-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2015-02-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2015-03-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2015-03-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2015-04-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2015-04-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2015-05-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 commentsApr 20152015-05-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2015-06-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2015-06-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2015-07-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2015-07-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2015-08-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2015-08-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2015-09-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2015-09-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2015-10-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2015-10-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2015-11-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 2 mentions; 0 submissions, 2 commentsOct 2015

Counts come from the repository’s dated source evidence. Index cutoff: 2026-11-02 08:16:59 UTC.

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PeriodStart (UTC)End (exclusive, UTC)MentionsSubmissionsComments
Oct 20142014-10-01 00:00:00 UTC2014-11-01 00:00:00 UTC101
Nov 20142014-11-01 00:00:00 UTC2014-12-01 00:00:00 UTC000
Dec 20142014-12-01 00:00:00 UTC2015-01-01 00:00:00 UTC000
Jan 20152015-01-01 00:00:00 UTC2015-02-01 00:00:00 UTC000
Feb 20152015-02-01 00:00:00 UTC2015-03-01 00:00:00 UTC000
Mar 20152015-03-01 00:00:00 UTC2015-04-01 00:00:00 UTC000
Apr 20152015-04-01 00:00:00 UTC2015-05-01 00:00:00 UTC000
May 20152015-05-01 00:00:00 UTC2015-06-01 00:00:00 UTC000
Jun 20152015-06-01 00:00:00 UTC2015-07-01 00:00:00 UTC000
Jul 20152015-07-01 00:00:00 UTC2015-08-01 00:00:00 UTC000
Aug 20152015-08-01 00:00:00 UTC2015-09-01 00:00:00 UTC000
Sep 20152015-09-01 00:00:00 UTC2015-10-01 00:00:00 UTC000
Oct 20152015-10-01 00:00:00 UTC2015-11-01 00:00:00 UTC202

What Hacker News says

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I agree that breaking a production user's experience is as verboten as it gets for agile software development. That's why we have massive test suites and CI infrastructure. However, you do want to avoid "CI handcuffs", where either because CI is too brittle or because you're simply integrating too many independent projects which, in order to push a change requiring coordinating changes elsewhere, requires massively outsized developer effort in order to push things through with zero CI breakage. This is more of a problem in CI systems with binary metrics like PASS/FAIL where every change that doesn't PASS is rejected. It's too easy to "wedge" a system like this, where project X's change can't go through without project Y being able to handle the change, and you end up introducing multiple code paths in both projects on a solely temporary
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basis just in order to keep CI green and happy. Rather than having a zero-tolerance CI failure policy, developers should be allowed to break CI temporarily, so long as they fix it in a timely manner (within an hour or two). Per-developer breakage metrics, to the extent they are needed, should not be in terms of breakage counts but instead breakage durations. That is, outside of production, it's fine to break stuff and quickly fix it, so long as you don't leave it broken. The big problems are where domain-siloed developers break a zero-tolerance policy because it was necessary to relax it "temporarily", and things stay broken because the policy stays relaxed and cannot be reinstated without sirens going off. Then restoring the CI policy is blocked for everyone by the one guy who knows the AIX quirks for debootstrap or whatever. Instead, breaking changes should be "allowed" where there is a window to fix the error and still move forward. Only when the window closes without a fix should the breaking change be rolled back (automatically). This line of thinking lends itself to formal, automated policy, but this depends first on judgment and cultural approval. As it happens, the best CI system I'm aware of for truly distributed, multiple project integration is OpenStack's Zuul: https://github.com/openstack-infra/zuul I'm not sure if it accommodates my prescription above, but if not, they probably have a better idea.
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