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Yeah was going to change that part too for something like "Writing code like this is verbose and spans too many lines", but then I just thought it'd be better if it sounded more like the parent comment. And I understand it doesn't resonate with most, I just wanted to highlight how the initial parent comment was very subjective and not very substantive, some people didn't take the joke so well, I guess it could've sounded a bit passive aggressive. I personally enjoy both C-like and Lisp-like syntaxes and languages, I do have a sweet spot for Forth tho. But back on topic, Fennel is a great language, working with Love and Fennel is really nice. And if the parentheses can seem off-putting for some, I'd highly encourage to give it a shot as you can quickly get past it and see how comfy it feels to have your statements properly demarkated. S-ex

YES! I recently deep dived into modern HTML/CSS to make my SSG and the two worst surprises were this (more specifically via https://github.com/ruricolist/spinneret/issues/37) and CSS's bad defaults around those inline/block elements (and the needed peppering of auto margin) and box-sizing != border-box.

Fun thing, I finished something quite similar in a week: https://git.sr.ht/~q3cpma/make-website ; down to the page language using the macro DSL of https://github.com/ruricolist/spinneret via runtime compilation of the (compile nil (lambda () ...)) kind. It's just HTML, other than that. Obviously very tailor-made for my website (https://world-playground-deceit.net/) but I plan on improving that part once I'm fully satisfied with it.

Hiccup[1] in Clojure and spinneret[2] in Common Lisp are implementations of a similar idea. [1]: https://practical.li/clojurescript/hiccup-style-syntax.html [2]: https://github.com/ruricolist/spinneret

In Common Lisp land, there's spinneret, which does something like that: https://github.com/ruricolist/spinneret I use it to generate my academic publications list, although I'm not 100% satisfied with the elegance of the resulting code: https://github.com/anadrome/cl-pubgen/blob/master/generate-p...

I'm using CL-WHO at the moment and I admit it's not necessarily the easiest way to generate html. But I did spot an alternative the other day called Spinneret: https://github.com/ruricolist/spinneret I haven't got round to testing it, but it sounds good so I might try writing my next project with it. Having said that, CL-WHO has had some updates recently to add basic support for HTML5. Hunchentoot is also getting fairly consistent updates, I think there is even a websocket extension for it now. I think Quicklisp has been responsible for a resurgence recently in Common Lisp. It used to be quite a pain for new people to get libraries up and running, which of course affected how much they get used/tested; so a common refrain was "Not happy? Just write your own". Now it's much easier to share and use libraries, and I'm seeing a fair bit