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seedvault

A backup application for the Android Open Source Project.

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12Mentions
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1.9KGitHub stars
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A backup application for the Android Open Source Project.

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Observed mentions: 2021-01-11 15:34:50 UTC to 2026-06-16 23:36:55 UTC.

0123452021-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2022-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 5 mentions; 0 submissions, 5 comments20212022-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2023-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 0 mentions; 0 submissions, 0 comments2023-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2024-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 1 mentions; 0 submissions, 1 comments20232024-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2025-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 3 mentions; 0 submissions, 3 comments2025-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2026-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 2 mentions; 0 submissions, 2 comments2026-01-01 00:00:00 UTC to 2027-01-01 00:00:00 UTC (exclusive): 1 mentions; 0 submissions, 1 comments. Incomplete calendar period.2026*

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Why do I have to relogin to every app on a new phone? Why are some apps missing after every migration? Why do some apps just randomly lose all config and settings and force you to set them up again? Why indeed. A major part of the problem is instead of charting a coherent strategy for backups from the beginning, Google constantly changes their minds as to how it should work and what behavior is expected from users and app developers. Once upon a time a simple pair of adb backup and restore commands did the trick. Then they introduced the android:allowBackup="false" app manifest flag[1], which silently breaks adb backup. (Yes, this got me once, resulting in lost data). That effectively wrenched sovereignty over your data out of your hands and shifted its control into the hands of app publishers, many of whom couldn't be bothered to chang
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e defaults. There are also limits (e.g. even when enabled, I gather Google's cloud only allows 25MB of data per app). I think more recently it's been enhanced with a flag that allows backups only if encrypted. All this degraded the user experience upgrading phones, so they carved out a Google-only exception in the form of a Device-to-Device (D2D) transfer process which has the privilege of totally ignoring the flag (so it can capture apps that advertise themselves as do-not-backup). But I've never seen a means of triggering that process without first being forced to turn on backups to Google servers[2], and allowing Google Play services to collect data like your email address. It's a horrible state of affairs that makes it impossible for third-party solutions like SeedVault to work reliably (to the point where users have suggested bastardizing/impersonating D2D to bypass the restrictions[3][4]). I don't understand why anti-trust efforts aren't examining lock-in like this, which forces you to use Google's cloud instead of your own, and intentionally creates an unequal playing field for competitors whose clouds you might trust more. It causes real harm to users like me. The only reliable method is rooting your phone, which recovers your sovereignty and allows apps like Titanium to bypass all this nonsense. I suspect that's a major reason some people still choose to root, despite all the security warnings against it. Of course depending on what exactly you're backing up you can still run into issues if restoring to a different model phone or version of the OS (although in the past I've had some success surgically extracting the desired records via a sqlite explorer). I wish someone would compile a flavour of Android with a Developer Option that undoes or ignores the effects of android:allowBackup. Depending on your viewpoint that would "break the Android security model", or fix it. Some users have even resorted to decompiling their app's stock APK, patching android:allowBackup to true, self-signing and recompiling [5], which I presume would have to be done after every app update (maybe there's a niche market opportunity for a service that automates this). If I created a mobile device platform I'd make darn sure critical functions like backup, restore, migration, maintaining "hot standby" devices, etc. just work(tm), seamlessly and reliably, out of the box. The architecture would make it easy and simple (instead of difficult and convoluted) for developers to ensure user data is captured (incidentally the normalized Palm pdb system didn't do a bad job of that), provide tools and examples of how to maintain forward compatibility, and generally funnel developers into good habits. It's not an easy problem to solve but I'm convinced it can be done with 100X more elegance. And users would have the power to backup to wherever they choose, with an easy way to custody their own encryption keys (with peer-to-peer recovery models e.g. X of Y friends or commercial-designates). [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12648373/what-is-android... [2] https://support.google.com/android/answer/6193424?hl=en [3] https://github.com/seedvault-app/seedvault/issues/165 [4] https://github.com/seedvault-app/seedvault/pull/562 [5] https://stackpointer.io/mobile/android-enable-adb-backup-for...
In Pixel 8 to have seven years of Android updates
I've been using LineageOS since the good ol' CyanogenMod days and I am very grateful for how much work the developers put into it day in and day out. Thanks to them, I managed to get rid of Google Apps in my day-to-day life almost[0] entirely and drastically improve privacy for me: Instead of Google Play Services I use MicroG[1] and instead of Play Store, I use Aurora Store[2] and F-Droid. For syncing files there is Syncthing[3] and for backups there is Seedvault[4]. To isolate apps I don't trust I use NetGuard[8] and Shelter[9] and practically no internet-facing app has access to my internal "SD card" on which my photos and documents reside. As a bonus, getting rid of GApps and using LineageOS has increased my phones' battery life and their overall lifetime tremendously. (I've only owned three smartphones in my entire life, the original
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T-Mobile G1, the HTC One M8 and the BQ Aquaris Pro.) I couldn't be happier. That being said, I've closely been following GrapheneOS[5] because I find its additional security guarantees very attractive. In fact, just a few hours ago my new Pixel 5 arrived and I'm looking forward to giving it a try. Though I already know I will miss MicroG… Maybe I'll end up building my own custom Android ROM, using Hashbang or RattlesnakeOS[6, 7]? Overall, I don't really understand people who criticize Android for not being open while loudly claiming a "pure" Linux phone would be so much better. (There was yet another discussion here on HN just a few days ago.) Yes, Android is a not your typical open-source project and clearly in the hands of Google. Yes, most phone and chip manufacturers still haven't open-sourced their hardware binary blobs. We definitely have to fight these fights. But with a Linux phone I'd probably be struggling with window-manager-related bugs in the worst possible moments (say, an emergency call) and risk all my data getting stolen whenever I install a new app. As much as I like Linux – I dabbled with it the first time almost two decades ago and have been using it as a daily driver for more than a decade – but its stability and security guarantees are orders of magnitude worse than Android's. I secretly hope that Fuchsia will find its way to the desktop at some point and be able to replace my Linux system. [0]: I still use Google Maps every now and then [1]: https://microg.org . See https://lineage.microg.org/ for LineageOS images that come with MicroG pre-installed. [2]: https://auroraoss.com/ [3]: https://syncthing.net [4]: https://github.com/seedvault-app/seedvault [5]: http://grapheneos.org/ [6]: https://github.com/hashbang/aosp-build [7]: https://github.com/dan-v/rattlesnakeos-stack/ [8]: https://netguard.me/ [9]: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/net.typeblog.shelter/
In LineageOS 18.1
> No - There is no 'easy' way to store/restore the entire phone as I believe Apple does. I think Android phones with the Google Services Framework installed do provide such a way. Alternatively, if you're using a custom ROM (like GrapheneOS on Pixel devices), you can use Seedvault[0] for full backups of your phone. It basically acts as a drop-in replacement of the backup service provided by Google. [0]: https://github.com/seedvault-app/seedvault
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