shoes4

As someone who has looked at Shoes several times but never dove in, it's confusing how Shoes 4 has been the "preview version" of Shoes for, like, a decade or more. It made me actively avoid getting invested in Shoes 3 (the release promoted on the linked website) because Shoes 4 requires JRuby and I am happy with CRuby (the Ruby interpreter most people think of when they hear "Ruby"). https://github.com/shoes/shoes4/ http://www.rubydoc.info/github/shoes/shoes4 No disrespect to the developers but to me it feels like taking over a GUI toolkit created "to teach programming to everyone" (to quote the Shoes 4 readme) and making it depend upon a super-complicated enterprise-focused Ruby was sort of Missing The Point™ in a huge way. Heck I couldn't even switch to JRuby if I wanted to because I <3 Ractors and JRuby still lacks CRuby 3.0 feature pa

It seems that it works with JRuby, not with MRI. > We recommend using JRuby 9.X+, with the majority of our testing currently against 9.1. JRuby 1.7.x may work, but has been untested since 4.0.0.pre6. Your question is still appropriate because they tested with 9,1 and JRuby is at 9.4 About MRI compatibility see https://github.com/shoes/shoes4/issues/1235

Hrumph ... should just port it to shoes[1] and be done with it. Just kidding, just kidding. But really, why can't we have an HTML5 layout engine for native applications? 1: https://github.com/shoes/shoes4

Summer of code went really well. I had a fantastic student that contributed so much. I'd love to have more contributors on Hackety. Development is basically frozen while we re-write Shoes to pay off the technical debt involved. (CORRUPTION really spoke to me...) So the best way to help is to get on https://github.com/shoes/shoes4 and shoes@librelist.com and start pitching in!

Hackety Hack maintainer here! Two things: 1. As popular as Hackety Hack is/was, I have pretty much been the sole maintainer for the past few years. This is really, really hard. Like, "reverse engineer a website from the app's API" hard. "Spend 6 months trying to get it to compile" hard. "Deal with thousands of lines of uncommented C written by someone who specifically enjoyed obscurity" hard. 2. Technical debt due to Shoes (the GUI toolkit Hackety is built on top of, see above comments about difficulty) has led to a few people re-writing Shoes from scratch[1]. It is relatively active. Hackety development is on a moratorium until that work is done. 3. I volunteer with CodeNow[2], and we teach using Hackety to high school kids. They generally find it to be pretty awesome. It is no secret that Hackety is not as active as I'd like it to be. G