azpainter

Looks nice! I really like lightweight X11-based apps. Has You seen AzPainter[0] image editor app? Latest AzPainter v3.x has really nice own modern looking X11-based `mlk`[1] widget toolkit and there are many apps built with it. I maintain(-ed) AzPainter v2.x community repo[2] (for packaging, l10n, wiki), that was based on its older `mlib`[3] toolkit. [0] https://gitlab.com/azelpg/azpainter [1] https://gitlab.com/azelpg/azpainter/-/tree/master/mlk [2] http://azsky2.html.xdomain.jp/soft/index.html [3] https://github.com/Symbian9/azpainter [4] https://github.com/Symbian9/azpainter/tree/master/mlib

> I think you forgot to add Krita. No, I'm NOT forgot to add it ;P I just use AzPainter[0,1] for painting, due to it is much faster & much more compact in comparison to Krita, even to GIMP. And that is why AzPainter is on my Top list ;) [0] https://git.io/azpainter [1] https://github.com/Symbian9/azpainter

May I just ask You for try does AzPainter V2[0] works that way on your machine? [0] https://github.com/Symbian9/azpainter

> Illustrator has a lot of this too despite many different UI decisions... I’ve seen a lot of people scream about how terrible it is that it doesn’t work like Photoshop. Try sK1[0], Scribus[1] & AzPainter[2] ;) [0] https://sk1project.net/sk1/ [1] https://www.scribus.net/ [2] https://github.com/Symbian9/azpainter

> GIMP is such a strange tool. GIMP is less strange than AzPainter[0], even less strange than GrafX2[1]. FTR, Grafx2 (GrafX 2.0 and beyond) would celebrate its own 25th Anniversary next year.[2] But really, development of the first version of GrafX2 (GrafX 1.0) started in 1995.[3] > GRAFX 2.00 Beta 90% (11/01/1996) - Wired'96 release > This version was 1st shown at the Wired'96 demo party in Belgium. We gave it to many people there, so let's start history from here. Note that there were a few different "90%" versions because we didn't want to change the number just for tiny bug-fixes. > GRAFX 1.0? -> 1.02 (09/??/1995 -> 07/??/1996) > Forget it! So, Grafx2 & GIMP are age-mates, but GrafX2 maybe is 'older brother'. [0] https://github.com/Symbian9/azpainter [1] http://grafx2.chez.com/ [2] http://grafx2.chez.com/index.php?article4/version-his

> Examples (in order of importance to me): * Image editor, with own modern looking GUI-toolkit built on top of X11 (AzPainter)[0] > Until Wayland has all these (and more) and they are as stable and feature-rich as the existing apps on X, I will not willingly switch to Wayland. Same thing actually decided by AzPainter developer: they already tried to add Wayland support to its GUI-toolkit (additionally to already supported X11), but postponed it due to Wayland still is not fully usable.[1,2] [0] https://github.com/Symbian9/azpainter [1] https://aznote.jakou.com/prog/wayland/index.html [2] http://azsky2.html.xdomain.jp/memo/index.html

It's not just supporting, it's about not wasting resources that can be used productively for other things. Take a look at this paint software: https://github.com/Symbian9/azpainter https://tipsonubuntu.com/2020/05/19/azpainter-full-color-ill... It's written in pure C by one developer, and it's super fast. Operations are on par with other software because fx libraries are usually already written in native compiled languages and optimized, but this one loads its interface in a lot less than one second, which becomes like 100 ms or less cached. Wouldn't it be wonderful if all software would at least load their interface comparatively fast? Why do i have to waste (tens? hundreds?) megabytes just to show a GUI that does absolutely nothing else than linking events to graphics elements when someone can write a full fledged software using a quite

> it doesn't support colour profiles AFAIK, so edits can be lossy if the image isn't sRGB. To be clear, AzPainter V2 actually in under heavy rewriting (next generation would get new toolkit with Wayland support & more features). As for now you could add feature request & bug reports for AzPainter V2 here.[0] [0] https://github.com/Symbian9/azpainter/issues

> I love AzPainter, it's very reminiscent of PaintTool SAI on Windows... and the UI is quite quirky sometimes To be honest, AzPainter2[0] (legacy version for Windows-only) had different UI & toolkit from actual AzPainter V2[1] (for Unix-like OS). Actual AzPainter V2 UI has modern look (single window & multi window mnodes; light & dark built-in themes), which could be customized additionally with user created themes.[2] > But it's significantly less powerful than Krita/Gimp It really depend on what you needs from painting app. AzPainter has wide range of features & is 10 times faster in comparison to Krita/GIMP. Also, if compare AppImage package size: AzPainter binary size is less than 3.0 Megabyte, where size of each binaries for Krita/GIMP actually reached near 200 Megabyte. There is wiki-page (WIP) with comparison of AzPainter Vs GIMP

> GIMP is a general image editing software while Krita focuses quite specifically on digital painting and art AzPainter is one more app which focuses quite specifically on digital painting and art.[0] [0] https://github.com/Symbian9/azpainter/wiki/Tutorials

> I really appreciate it's polished interface that is not always a priority in OSS. What you would say about AzPainter UI?[0] [0] https://github.com/Symbian9/azpainter

To be honest, its much easier to port Linux software to MacOS than to Windows. Why? Because MacOS & Linux are both Unix-like OS. And not only GTK+ apps easy to port on MacOS, but X11-based Linux apps also easy to port to MacOS. For example, take a look on AzPainter painting app.[0,1] [0] https://github.com/Symbian9/azpainter [1] https://github.com/Symbian9/azpainter/wiki/Packaging-status#...

> If you're interested in using X11 now I'm interested! Take a look on AzPainter[0] — modern looking desktop app for painting, written in pure C with own toolkit built directly on top of X11. Would be happy to see it ported to iOS.[1] FTR, AzPainter already ported to Android, thanks to Termux app dev team.[2] [0] https://github.com/symbian9/azpainter [1] https://github.com/Symbian9/azpainter/issues/76 [2] https://github.com/Symbian9/azpainter/issues/6

> Making an external library of its gui primitives and functions could be an interesting project to be used on small embedded boards. Think, AzPainter itself already could be used on small embedded boards ;) For source code of AzPainter's `mlib` toolkit look here: - https://github.com/Symbian9/azpainter/tree/master/mlib Since AzPainter v2.1.3, `mlib` sources shipped with AzPainter now licensed under GPLv3 terms, but there is AzPainter theme editor (older `mlib` minimal demo app) which sources licensed under BSD terms: - http://azsky2.html.xdomain.jp/linux/mthemeeditor.html Also, there are few other apps based on `mlib` toolkit - http://azsky2.html.xdomain.jp/linux/azpainterb.html - http://azsky2.html.xdomain.jp/linux/azcomicv.html - http://azsky2.html.xdomain.jp/linux/aobook.html