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tinygrad
tinygrad
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tinygrad / tinygrad

tinygrad

You like pytorch? You like micrograd? You love tinygrad! ❤️

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You like pytorch? You like micrograd? You love tinygrad! ❤️

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For an excellent code base to see DRY in action, look at tinygrad: https://github.com/geohot/tinygrad I believe it has a potential to be a great alternative to pytorch. I love…

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tinygrad: For something between PyTorch and karpathy/micrograd. Maintained by tiny corp. Homepage | Documentation | Discord tinygrad is an end-to-end deep learning stack: Tensor library with autograd IR and compiler that fuse and lower kernels JIT + graph execution nn / optim / datasets for real training It’s inspired by PyTorch (ergonomics), JAX (functional transforms and IR-based AD), and TVM (scheduling and codegen), but stays intentionally tiny and hackable. How tinygrad compares PyTorch ✅ Similar: eager Tensor API, autograd, optim, basic datasets and layers. ✅ You can write familiar training loops. 🔁 Unlike PyTorch, the entire compiler and IR are visible and hackable. JAX ✅ IR-based autodiff over primitives (like JAXPR + XLA). ✅ Function-level JIT (TinyJit) that captures and replays kernels. 🔁 Fewer functional transforms (no full vmap/pmap yet), but far easier to read. TVM ✅ Multiple lowering passes, scheduling, and BEAM search over kernels. ✅ Device “graphs” for batched execution. 🔁 tinygrad also ships the front-end framework (tensors, nn, optim), not just the compiler. Laziness Try a matmul. See how, despite the style, it is fused into one kernel with the power of laziness. DEBUG=3 python3 -c "from tinygrad import Tensor; N = 1024; a, b = Tensor.empty(N, N), Tensor.empty(N, N); (a.reshape(N, 1, N) * b.T.reshape(1, N, N)).sum(axis=2).realize()" And we can change DEBUG to 4 to see the generated code. Neural networks As it turns out, 90% of what you need for neural networks are a decent autograd/tensor library. Throw in an optimizer, a data loader, and some compute, and you have all you need. from tinygrad import Tensor, nn, Context class LinearNet: def __init__(self): self.l1 = Tensor.kaiming_uniform(784, 128) self.l2 = Tensor.kaiming_uniform(128, 10) def __call__(self, x:Tensor) -> Tensor: return x.flatten(1).dot(self.l1).relu().dot(self.l2) model = LinearNet() optim = nn.optim.Adam([model.l1, model.l2], lr=0.001) x, y = Tensor.rand(4, 1, 28, 28), Tensor([2,4,3,7]) # replace with real mnist dataloader with Context(TRAINING=1): for i in range(10): optim.zero_grad() loss = model(x).sparse_categorical_crossentropy(y).backward() optim.step() print(i, loss.item()) See examples/beautiful_mnist.py for the full version that gets 98% in ~5 seconds Accelerators tinygrad already supports numerous accelerators, including: OpenCL CPU METAL CUDA AMD NV QCOM WEBGPU And it is easy to add more! Your accelerator of choice only needs to support a total of ~25 low level ops. To check default accelerator run: python3 -c "from tinygrad import Device; print(Device.DEFAULT)" Installation The current recommended way to install tinygrad is from source. From source git clone https://github.com/tinygrad/tinygrad.git cd tinygrad python3 -m pip install -e . Direct (master) python3 -m pip install git+https://github.com/tinygrad/tinygrad.git Documentation Documentation along with a quick start guide can be found on the docs website built from the docs/ directory. Quick example comparing to PyTorch from tinygrad import Tensor x = Tensor.eye(3).clone() # clone to make it a buffer y = Tensor([[2.0,0,-2.0]]) z = y.matmul(x).sum() z.backward() print(x.grad.tolist()) # dz/dx print(y.grad.tolist()) # dz/dy The same thing but in PyTorch: import torch x = torch.eye(3, requires_grad=True) y = torch.tensor([[2.0,0,-2.0]], requires_grad=True) z = y.matmul(x).sum() z.backward() print(x.grad.tolist()) # dz/dx print(y.grad.tolist()) # dz/dy Contributing There has been a lot of interest in tinygrad lately. Following these guidelines will help your PR get accepted. If you do submit a PR, please include a sentence or two about why you want this merged and why you think it will improve the project. If you are a new contributor with something that looks even close to AI written, it will be closed without feedback and you may be banned from our GitHub. No human should waste time reading AI slop. And for everyone, if you used AI, disclose what you used it for. We'll start with what will get your PR closed with a pointer to this section: No code golf! While low line count is a guiding light of this project, anything that remotely looks like code golf will be closed. The true goal is reducing complexity and increasing readability, and deleting \ns does nothing to help with that. All docs and whitespace changes will be closed unless you are a well-known contributor. The people writing the docs should be those who know the codebase the absolute best. People who have not demonstrated that shouldn't be messing with docs. Whitespace changes are both useless and carry a risk of introducing bugs. Anything you claim is a "speedup" must be benchmarked. In general, the goal is simplicity, so even if your PR makes things marginally faster, you have to consider the tradeoff with maintainability and readability. In general, the code outside the core tinygrad/ folder is not well tested, so unless the current code there is broken, you shouldn't be changing it. If your PR looks "complex", is a big diff, or adds lots of lines, it won't be reviewed or merged. Consider breaking it up into smaller PRs that are individually clear wins. A common pattern I see is prerequisite refactors before adding new functionality. If you can (cleanly) refactor to the point that the feature is a 3 line change, this is great, and something easy for us to review. Now, what we want: Bug fixes (with a regression test) are great! This library isn't 1.0 yet, so if you stumble upon a bug, fix it, write a test, and submit a PR, this is valuable work. Solving bounties! tinygrad offers cash bounties for certain improvements to the library. All new code should be high quality and well tested. Features. However, if you are adding a feature, consider the line tradeoff. If it's 3 lines, there's less of a bar of usefulness it has to meet over something that's 30 or 300 lines. All features must have regression t
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Started as an experiment playing with the latest foundational models to see the capabilities and optimize my workflows, turns out to be pretty functional. Maintains upstream UOp parity throughout. Lots of AI slop involved and a surprising amount of hand scaffolding needed to make it work initially. Learned quite a bit of the internals of tinygrad along the way. Absolutely amazing framework and you should absolutely check them out. https://github.com/tinygrad/tinygrad the only reason gograd is anything at all is because of them.
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From reverse engineered information (in the context of Asahi Linux, which can have raw hardware access to the ANE) it seems that the M1/M2 Apple Neural Engine provides exclusively for statically scheduled MADD's of INT8 or FP16 values.[0] This wastes a lot of memory bandwidth on padding in the context of newer local models which generally are more heavily quantized. (That is, when in-memory model values must be padded to FP16/INT8 this slashes your effective use of memory bandwidth, which is what determines token generation speed. GPU compute doesn't have that issue; one can simply de-quantize/pad the input in fast local registers to feed the matrix compute units, so memory bandwidth is used efficiently.) The NPU/ANE is still potentially useful for lowering power use in the context of prompt pre-processing, which is limited by raw compu
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te as opposed to the memory bandwidth bound of token generation. (Lower power usage in this context will save on battery and may help performance by avoiding power/thermal throttling, especially on passively-cooled laptops. So this is definitely worth going for.) [0] Some historical information about bare-metal use of the ANE is available from the Whisper.cpp pull req: https://github.com/ggml-org/whisper.cpp/pull/1021 Even older information at: https://github.com/eiln/ane/tree/33a61249d773f8f50c02ab0b9fe... . More extensive information at https://github.com/tinygrad/tinygrad/tree/master/extra/accel... (from the Tinygrad folks) seems to basically confirm the above. (The jury is still out for M3/M4 which currently have no Asahi support - thus, no current prospects for driving the ANE bare-metal. Note however that the M3/Pro/Max ANE reported performance numbers are quite close to the M2 version, so there may not be a real improvement there either. M3 Ultra and especially the M4 series may be a different story.)
In Experimenting with Local LLMs on macOS
The G stood for graphics. As for being stuck in the past, I got fed up in 2006 after 8 years of nothing but ATI graphics. I spent years hoping that the issues would be fixed after the latest update, but they never were. I had a fairly problem free experience after switching to Nvidia. When issues did occur, Nvidia fixed them within months. While enjoying the relatively problem free experience on Nvidia, I would hear people claim everything was fixed on ATI (and later AMD), only to hear waves of people complaining about issues. Then Valve got involved with the driver development for AMD graphics and made the Steam deck. I brought one and it has been fantastic. I still hear about numerous problems involving drivers AMD wrote (especially their windows drivers), but I am using drivers that were in part authored by Valve, and Valve fixed the i
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ssues AMD was incapable of fixing themselves. You claim that things are fine for HPC on AMD graphics hardware, but I have reason to be skeptical given that numerous people have reported severe problems just last year with no follow up that the various headaches have been fixed. Also, you have repeatedly claimed that tinygrad’s software is not a driver, yet I see a userland driver here: https://github.com/tinygrad/tinygrad/blob/master/tinygrad/ru... As I have said elsewhere: It loads various firmware blobs, manages part of the initialization process, manages memory, writes to registers, etcetera. These are all things a driver does. I am going to listen to others and my own eyes over you on these matters.
In Why DeepSeek is cheap at scale but expensive to run locally
> ROCm isn't part of AMD drivers, its a software library that helps you support legacy compute APIs and stuff in the BLAS/GEMM/LAPACK end of things. AMD says otherwise: > AMD ROCm™ is an open software stack including drivers, development tools, and APIs that enable GPU programming from low-level kernel to end-user applications. https://www.amd.com/en/products/software/rocm.html The issues involving AMD hardware not only applied to the drivers, but to the firmware below the drivers: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/amds-lisa-su... Tinygrad’s software looks like a userland driver: https://github.com/tinygrad/tinygrad/blob/master/tinygrad/ru... It loads various firmware blobs, manages part of the initialization process, manages memory, writes to registers, etcetera. These are all things a driver does.
In Why DeepSeek is cheap at scale but expensive to run locally
Some outdated information about bare-metal use of the ANE is available from the Whisper.cpp pull req: https://github.com/ggml-org/whisper.cpp/pull/1021 Even more outdated information at: https://github.com/eiln/ane/tree/33a61249d773f8f50c02ab0b9fe... In short, the early (M1/M2) versions of ANE are unlikely to be useful for modern LLM inference due to their seemingly exclusive focus on statically scheduled FP16 and INT8 MADDs. More extensive information at https://github.com/tinygrad/tinygrad/tree/master/extra/accel... (from the Tinygrad folks, note that this is also similarly outdated) seems to basically confirm the above. (The jury is still out for M3/M4 which currently have no Asahi support - thus, no current prospects for driving the ANE bare-metal. Note however that the M3/Pro/Max ANE reported performance numbers are quite close to t
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he M2 version, so there may not be a real improvement there either. M3 Ultra and especially the M4 series may be a different story.)
In Run LLMs on Apple Neural Engine (ANE)
> Looking at his recent track record[1] One might argue he's had a pattern for even longer. While he did do some early hypervisor glitching, even his PS3 root key release was basically just applying fail0verflow's ECDSA exploit (fail0verflow didn't release the keys specifically because they didn't want to get sued ... so that was a pretty dick move [1]). For his projects, I think it's important to look at what he's done that's cool (eg, reversing 7900XTX [2], creating a user-space driver that completely bypasses AMD drivers for compute [3]) and separating it from his (super cringe) social media postings/self-hype. Still, at the end of the day, here's hoping that someone at AMD realizes that having terrible consumer and workstation support will basically continue to be a huge albatross/handicap - it cuts them off basically all academic/res
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earch development (almost every single ML library and technique you can name/used in production is CUDA first because of this) and the non-hyperscaler enterprise market as well. Any dev can get a PO for a $500 Nvidia GPU (or has one on their workstation laptop already). What's the pathway for ROCm? (honestly, if I were in charge, my #1 priority would be to make sure ROCm is installed and works w/ every single APU installed, even the 2CU ones). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Computer_Entertainment_Am... [2] https://github.com/tinygrad/7900xtx [3] https://github.com/tinygrad/tinygrad/blob/master/docs/develo...
In ROCm Device Support Wishlist

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