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And there's also Triton[0] and vanilla SmartOS[1] it's based on [0] https://github.com/TritonDataCenter/triton [1] https://docs.smartos.org/

Given the players here (Brian and Steve are both from Joyent) and what little I can deduce from the marketing fluff on their website, this seems like they're just trying to build a hardware stack to go with something like Joyent's (most awesome) Triton: https://github.com/joyent/triton Triton is/was the betamax of on-prem cloud orchestration. It is better tech in the beginning than Kubernetes, but then lost due to the stigma associated with Joyent/Solaris. Kind of a shame as it is really good tech. A bit more non-technical overview: https://www.joyent.com/triton/compute

At the time we looked at OpenShift and decided not to use it because there was no easy wat to update an openshift cluster. In all fairness I have no clue what the current state of this issue is. For us it was important enough to be a deal breaker back then though. We settled on Triton ( https://github.com/joyent/triton ) and while conceptually very different we are very happy with it. It allows us to leverage great technologies like ZFS, DTrace, Crossbow (network virtualization), Solaris Zones, etc.

They are far from abandoned. In fact they are used in production to power Triton cloud's docker emulation. In fact the latest LX-related commit was made 4 days ago (see the commit history of illumos-joyent linked below). https://github.com/joyent/sdc-docker https://github.com/joyent/triton https://github.com/joyent/illumos-joyent/commits/master

All of the bits with the exception of the customer-facing portal are already open-source: SmartOS: https://github.com/joyent/illumos-joyent and https://github.com/joyent/smartos-live Triton (the orchestration around it): https://github.com/joyent/triton - this is the root repository of the project, there are many services which are linked to here: https://github.com/joyent/triton/blob/master/docs/developer-...

https://www.joyent.com/blog/test-drive-joyents-elastic-conta... https://github.com/joyent/triton/blob/master/docs/developer-... https://github.com/joyent/triton https://github.com/joyent/manta https://github.com/joyent/containerpilot https://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/SmartOS+Users+Guide https://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/Home

SmartOS is a good choice. They provide KVM and joyent opensource their SmartDataCenter https://github.com/joyent/sdc so you can provision VM with API. They are developing for LXC which will give you better performance in the future.

For whatever it's worth, SmartDataCenter, Joyent's open source SmartOS-based system for operating a cloud[1], does exactly this[2] -- and (as explained in an old but still technically valid video[3]) we have found it to be a huge, huge win. And we even made good on the Docker piece when we used SDC as the engine behind Triton[4] -- and have found it all to be every bit as potent as you suggest![5] [1] https://github.com/joyent/sdc [2] https://github.com/joyent/sdc/blob/master/docs/developer-gui... [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieGWbo94geE [4] https://www.joyent.com/blog/triton-docker-and-the-best-of-al... [5] https://www.joyent.com/blog/spin-up-a-docker-dev-test-enviro...

@geofft that is a great link, our CTO Bryan Cantrill continued to beat the drum at the Docker SF meetup in May 6, 2015. Video and transcript at https://www.joyent.com/developers/videos/bryan-cantrill-virt... . My favorite line is, "And, so in terms of the security of containers, from our perspective they have to be secure because if you're able to break out of a container into the global zone of SmartOS, you could delete the company." Yesterday at http://containersummit.io/, Bryan's talk "Going Container Native" (video coming soon) was in the same vein, SmartOS (illumos) directly benefits from its Solaris lineage -- Solaris Zones were engineered for security. We, Joyent, absolutely do believe Triton has the security properties that everyone seems to want out of Docker, because Joyent has been running OS containers in multi-tenant producti

Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Having seen how proactive our support team is and active in seeing customer's through maintenance and upgrades, my guess is that is the context. All the information and technology is there in SDC. Without Joyent Support, it would require riding the change logs and announcements and taking it fully into your hands. https://github.com/joyent/sdc#community

Would you quote the bits here, so I can clarify with the product side of the house? We have not and never will let anything jeopardize the continued security of any SDC deployments. SDC having update channels is under active development: 'As of sdcadm version 1.5.5 and the release-20150319, SmartDataCenter has preliminary support for update "channels". A "channel" is separate stream of built SDC components with different stability characteristics.' https://github.com/joyent/sdc/blob/master/docs/operator-guid... I image that the support channel will be the most conservative.

That's a good thing to clarify. It's not an open core system like Mac OS X. SmartDataCenter is open source and Triton is our product branding. https://github.com/joyent/sdc There is work in progress to clean up and open source the self-serve portal and its dependencies. The propriety bits are not ours: "The Joyent SDC USB images offered to our customers contain certain firmware binaries for use with Joyent-branded hardware. We cannot make that software generally available in the open source builds; however, it is available to all who have purchased Joyent-branded hardware and is of no use without that hardware." https://docs.joyent.com/sdc7/obtaining-software

You might want to consider Joyent's Smart Data Center. It is all opensource and you can buy support. A lot of the people leaving the engineering teams at Sun/Oracle ended up at Joyent. I think datacenter platforms will start to look more like "Cloud Hosting" and less like it currently does where we basically just slice up a server into many different servers. https://www.joyent.com/private-cloud https://github.com/joyent/sdc