remodeling

Ward Cunningham once, of all places in an Github issue [0], explained how the original C2 Wiki was seeded. > Perhaps I should explain why wiki worked. > I wrote a program in a weekend and then spent two hours a day for the next five years curating the content it held. For another five years a collection of people did the same work with love for what was there. But that was the end. A third cohort of curators did not appear. Content suffered. A heroic amount effort of a single person, and later the collective effort of a small group, worked in the mid-90es. I'm skeptical that it will be repeatable 30 years later. Despite this, it would be the type of place, that I'd like to visit on the web. :( [0] https://github.com/WardCunningham/remodeling/issues/51#issue...

You are 100% right. Server was pegged at 100 and the family (me) were complaining about email not working (who runs their own mail server any more). We needed to shed load. Some things went to GitHub pages (https://github.com/WardCunningham/remodeling) and the rest turned into simple content loaded by that. There were some more complexities because of SSL and old OS but it works. Things have evolved since and will continue to evolve but expect the original wiki to remain accessible in some form.

That redesign has been sporadic. https://github.com/WardCunningham/remodeling/graphs/code-fre...

Hi, for some reason you're shadowbanned? As a new account I find this really unusual. It's likely you might need to verify your email or something. I've vouched for this comment, which is why it appears. On Topic: there was a discussion a year ago about what the progress block is: https://github.com/WardCunningham/remodeling/issues/24 It seems that he's stuck with some files that are mixed-encoding and can't repair them, it's likely the wiki will be read-only until that problem is solved, unfortunately.

Seems like it hasn't been updated in a while. Each page has an "last updated" timestamp. The homepage says: "Last edit December 19, 2014". There's also a Github project but hasn't been updated in 2 years: https://github.com/WardCunningham/remodeling

He writes that most of his effort is going into his new federated wiki project: https://github.com/WardCunningham/remodeling/issues/24

Last edits seem to all have been in 2014-2015. There's some text in the footer forwarding to [1], but that was last updated about a year ago. 1: https://github.com/WardCunningham/remodeling

wiki.c2.com looks almost the same as it has for decades. Today I found some subtle modern buttons at the top right. They seem to have appeared in 2016. See also https://github.com/WardCunningham/remodeling

I'm not sure what you mean by 'youngsters'--c2.com (and the associated wiki) are still maintained by Ward Cunningham, and the effort to rewrite the wiki[1] is hosted under his GitHub account and appears to have been his decision. It appears to have been motivated by a desire to "federate" the wiki, though I'm unclear on what exactly this vision entails. [1]: https://github.com/WardCunningham/remodeling

The only good thing is that the database is available via web calls. The bad thing is that the code to render the text is insane (take a look: https://github.com/WardCunningham/remodeling/blob/master/sta...). Even the goal of the 'remodel' (really, more of a demolition) is crazy: 'The original wiki rewritten as a single page application.' That's like saying, 'roast beef, now with added concrete and carpet!' I just don't get how someone can think the change is a good idea.

The largest thing it downloads with a XHR is names.txt, a 641 kB (265 kB gzipped) list.. of names. 36852 names to be precise. Baffling. Apparently it's to make links clientside in the text. https://github.com/WardCunningham/remodeling/blob/master/sta...

Error: Trouble Encountered http://c2.com/wiki/remodel/pages/ThereAreExactlyThreeParadig... can't fetch document See github link: https://github.com/WardCunningham/remodeling/issues/2

Noted in an existing GitHub issue from remodeling: full service static site - https://github.com/WardCunningham/remodeling/issues/2 That would allow for a return to cachability for archive.org.

It sounds like the wiki was rewritten recently as a single page app which is what is causing the slowdown. See https://github.com/WardCunningham/remodeling#remodeling which is linked from the footer of the wiki.

I think he needs some time to improve it. More explanations here: https://github.com/WardCunningham/remodeling