Commenters debate whether modern display resolutions and refresh rates necessitate GPU offloading for transparency effects or if CPU performance should suffice, while simultaneously arguing over the viability of Wayland versus X11 and the role of GNOME/GTK in the Linux ecosystem.
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xserver
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X11Libre / xserver
xserver
XLibre Xserver
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Favorable Commenters describe the x11libre/xserver fork as an active alternative to Xorg that offers features like easy restart and avoids corporate control. One user notes it is currently useful but requires more polishing and development effort.
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Commenters describe the x11libre/xserver fork as an active alternative to Xorg that offers features like easy restart and avoids corporate control. One user notes it is currently useful but requires more polishing and development effort.
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Observed mentions: 2025-06-06 10:35:10 UTC to 2026-10-12 17:27:30 UTC.
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| Jun 2025 | 2025-06-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2025-07-01 00:00:00 UTC | 14 | 3 | 11 |
| Jul 2025 | 2025-07-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2025-08-01 00:00:00 UTC | 1 | 0 | 1 |
| Aug 2025 | 2025-08-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2025-09-01 00:00:00 UTC | 1 | 0 | 1 |
| Sep 2025 | 2025-09-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2025-10-01 00:00:00 UTC | 1 | 0 | 1 |
| Oct 2025 | 2025-10-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2025-11-01 00:00:00 UTC | 1 | 0 | 1 |
| Nov 2025 | 2025-11-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2025-12-01 00:00:00 UTC | 4 | 0 | 4 |
| Dec 2025 | 2025-12-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2026-01-01 00:00:00 UTC | 4 | 0 | 4 |
| Jan 2026 | 2026-01-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2026-02-01 00:00:00 UTC | 5 | 1 | 4 |
| Feb 2026 | 2026-02-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2026-03-01 00:00:00 UTC | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Mar 2026 | 2026-03-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2026-04-01 00:00:00 UTC | 3 | 0 | 3 |
| Apr 2026 | 2026-04-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2026-05-01 00:00:00 UTC | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| May 2026 | 2026-05-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2026-06-01 00:00:00 UTC | 4 | 1 | 3 |
| Jun 2026 | 2026-06-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2026-07-01 00:00:00 UTC | 5 | 1 | 4 |
| Jul 2026 | 2026-07-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2026-08-01 00:00:00 UTC | 1 | 0 | 1 |
| Aug 2026 | 2026-08-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2026-09-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2 | 0 | 2 |
| Sep 2026 | 2026-09-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2026-10-01 00:00:00 UTC | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Oct 2026 | 2026-10-01 00:00:00 UTC | 2026-11-01 00:00:00 UTC | 1 | 0 | 1 |
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14 sourcesBIbilkow·Jun 20, 2025
I got curious and found a ton of red flags in about half hour...
Summary of the drama that resulted in Xlibre:
- https://discuss.pixls.us/t/weekly-recap-8-june-2025/50638
From the README at https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver:
> This is an independent project, not at all affiliated with BigTech or any of their subsidiaries or tax evasion tools, nor any political activists groups, state actors, etc. It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Anybody who's treating others nicely is welcomed.
This exchange between him and Torvalds in 2021:
- https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/6/10/903
- https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/6/10/957
In Open source can't coordinate?The README: https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/blob/master/README.md
The code of conduct: https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/blob/master/CODE_OF_COND...
In Long live Xorg, I mean Xlibrequick disclaimer before anyone starts telling their friends about x11libre; the project is associated with MAGA language and personally I don't trust it
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/40
If I were to take it several steps further, the conspiracy theorist in me says that redhat has the biggest incentive to make Wayland haters look silly. Of course that's just conjecture.
In Think twice before abandoning Xorg. Wayland breaks everythingWhat does the DEI-free commitment mean? · Issue #40 · X11Libre/xserver
10 points · Open discussionThere is lots of work no ones wants to do in their free time. That is why you pay people money.
And why wouldn't someone be happy working on X11? It is an open source project, it is high impact work. I would jump at it instantly if someone paid me a competitive wage to do it. Or honestly even a bit under my normal expectation. Not every person wants to work on some ego-driven rewrite of a rewrite. Some people are fine working with legacy code.
Also there is a counter example right above my post. Someone was so motivated to work on it, they even forked it: https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver
Granted the fork seems weirdly ideologically motivated but anyway, case in point.
In Introducing stronger dependencies on systemdXlibre project's fork of the Xorg xserver
26 points · Open discussionRead the news. That's why the maintainers forked it and are starting improvements on their own project.
https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2025/06/06/msg032...
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver
In Introducing stronger dependencies on systemdRelated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujJCyXfWpOo
Also claims HN blocks talk about xlibre fork https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver
In Freedesktop team member closes all open xserver merge requestswe have xlibre now https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver
In Ubuntu 25.10 drops support for GNOME on Xorg> but banning someone who cares about it and removing
> their proposed contributions, feels hostile.
I was curious about this so I did a little digging. It looks like the other developers were not happy with the quality of his contributions. Reading the discussions in https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1760 and https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1797 sheds a lot of light on the problems. Quoting two comments from the dozens there:
> @metux i appreciate you maintaining and trying to improve Xorg but
> this is the second time you break it recently, you really should
> implement more testing...
and
> Honestly, I would strongly recommend just not merging anything @metux
> does from now on. I do not feel that their presence here has been a net
> positive -- I have seen zero actual bugs solved
Read the rest
by any of their code
> changes. What I have seen is build breakage, ABI breakage, and ecosystem
> churn from moving code around and deleting code.
> Xorg could use some actual maintenance, but that means fixing actual
> bugs and solving real problems.
In my search I also found that the XLibre project description mentions "BigTech moles killing Xorg", XLibre being "free of DEI discrimination" and wanting to "Make X great again!" (https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver). And he posted an antivax conspiracy on the Linux kernel mailing list (https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/6/10/903). And he appears to be a German WW2 apologist (https://web.archive.org/web/20190404153507/https://lists.dyn...). So... there's that too.
I am pretty sure you are wrong. They even tell in the README https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver that nvidia is going to be a problem.
In The X.Org Server just got forked (announcing XLibre)The project readme has some thoughts about why X.Org is treated as done and why the dev forked; I think I get why the OP didn’t link that instead.
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/tree/xlibre/master
In The X.Org Server just got forked (announcing XLibre)Well-known developer Enrico Weigelt just forked the X server from freedesktop.org after getting the boot [0].
[0] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests...
[1] https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/commits/xlibre/prepare/
In The X.Org Server just got forked (announcing XLibre)The X.Org Server just got forked (announcing XLibre)
116 points · Open discussion