zulip-archive

which communication tool is offering that? except web forums, discourse? most others you need to go an extra step to make the messages public, like mailing list archives. there is this: https://github.com/zulip/zulip-archive i haven't used it, just saying that solutions exist. and with the constant hammering of sites by AI bots you probably don't want them hitting a dynamic message interface but prefer a static copy.

Zulip product lead here -- I'm not aware of anything in this space that used to work and no longer does. There's long been a way to make Zulip channels searchable with zulip-archive (https://github.com/zulip/zulip-archive), and that continues to be available. Making the app-native web-public channels accessible to search engines is a big technical project, tracked as https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/21881.

Search engines are great at rendering content using JavaScript, they're just not able to explore the Zulip web application's URL structure, so they tend to index one page per Zulip installation. The current solution is that projects that want their publicly available content to be search engine indexed set up https://github.com/zulip/zulip-archive, which usually involves hooking a GitHub action up to GitHub Pages for a 0-infrastructure deployment. Ultimately, that's the same model as an IRC indexing project like this one: a separate tool from the chat server is responsible for search engine indexing. Lean runs one here: https://leanprover-community.github.io/archive/, but it looks like it hasn't updated in a year, so likely whoever in the Lean community needs to investigate why it isn't updating. https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/2188

You can do search engine indexing via https://github.com/zulip/zulip-archive; it defaults to archiving your public access streams. We will eventually support search engine indexing without the extra overhead of running a separate archive tool (likely as an organization-level settings checkbox, since not everyone who wants public access wants search engine indexing).

I've also mentioned this in a separate comment in the post but reposting here for visibility: To clarify Zulip let's you export their conversations and then render it by generating a static HTMl similar to https://leanprover-community.github.io/archive/ You'd have to use https://github.com/zulip/zulip-archive to achieve. You can see it in the Caveats sections in their documentation https://zulip.com/help/public-access-option#caveats They are working on it here: https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/21881 Zulip lets you browse conversations of public conversations but that is very different than the app being natively search engine friendly and indexable. The difference between Zulip's implementation and Linen is that you don't need a separate UI when someone finds a link in Google. If you find a link through Google you get a dynamic real

To clarify Zulip let's you export their conversations and then render it by generating a static HTMl similar to https://leanprover-community.github.io/archive/ You'd have to use https://github.com/zulip/zulip-archive to achieve. You can see it in the Caveats sections in their documentation https://zulip.com/help/public-access-option#caveats They are working on it here: https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/21881 Zulip lets you browse conversations of public conversations but that is very different than the app being natively search engine friendly and indexable. The difference between Zulip's implementation and Linen is that you don't need a separate UI when someone finds a link in Google. If you find a link through Google you get a dynamic real time experience instead of a static page.

Yes, the web-public view is being actively worked on: https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues?q=label%3A%22area%3A+w... There’s also a separate zulip-archive project that exports Zulip streams to static HTML: https://github.com/zulip/zulip-archive

Search engine indexing is available in Zulip today via Zulip's public archive tool (https://github.com/zulip/zulip-archive). Many larger OSS projects using Zulip, like Rust, Julia, and Lean Prover, use it. We expect to have a native feature allowing a configurable set of streams to be browsed using a real Zulip web app UI without creating an account, available in beta in the next few weeks; we're actively integrating the implementation via https://github.com/zulip/zulip/pull/18532. We plan to look at optional search indexing in that native implementation once the logged-out access feature is complete.

I lead the Zulip project. I'm not sure about this detail of Slack's ToS. At a technical level, you can certainly export your data from a Slack (which is we implement https://zulip.com/help/import-from-slack); I imagine it's easy to write a tool to format and publish it. FWIW Zulip maintains https://github.com/zulip/zulip-archive, which is a configurable API-based tool for creating a static HTML archive from a Zulip organization, with tooling to update it every few minutes. A lot of larger open projects use it. (We're also working on a native logged-out access feature with less janky formatting, which has a working PR that we need to integrate). I suppose you could export your data from Slack, import it into Zulip, and then publish that using zulip-archive if you didn't want to write any code, but I'm sure the formatting would be better pr

Apart from the threading model, I love Zulip for its openness. It's quite sad Slack and Discord are often the first choice for open communities. They are siloed and unless you are deliberately searching in a specific workspace, you'll never run into the information in a search engine. In comparison, Zulip: - provides HTML export functionality https://github.com/zulip/zulip-archive#zulip-html-archive (example https://leanprover-community.github.io/archive ) - URLs are nice and encode meaning (e.g. https://memex.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/279601-hpi/topic/...) ... compare with Slack/Discord meaningless character sequences - I'm excited about https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/4817 , which would allow viewing workspaces in 'guest' mode, without registering at all

The master issue for that project is https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/13172. It's being worked on and is considered a high priority. There's also an archive tool at https://github.com/zulip/zulip-archive.