ladybird

Commit activity actually increased after they blocked external contributions in June: https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird/graphs/commit-ac...

> Are you saying their code was horrible and unsafe, or just that its a byproduct of using C++. Yes. It's both terrible because it's C++, and it's terrible because they're not following the modern C++ safe coding practices. > They've been rewriting parts in rust: https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird/blob/8f0a1b19114.... And it's not going to amount to anything major. Rewriting in Rust properly requires architecting things from the beginning. > No they don't. For a long time, their policy had been "no third-party code". Eventually it became untenable, so they started using third-party libraries. But they still ended up reinventing the wheel at least several times.

> It was filled with horrible unsafe C++ Are you saying their code was horrible and unsafe, or just that its a byproduct of using C++. They've been rewriting parts in rust: https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird/blob/8f0a1b19114.... > They also re-implement everything whether it is needed or not. No they don't. SerenityOS did, and that was the goal of the project. But Ladybird has plenty of third party libraries.

Ladybird planned to release alpha this year. Unfortunately extensions are unsupported, but maybe soon: https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird/issues/976

Ladybird is natively integrating Brave's adblock engine https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird/pull/9587

why not join up with https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird ?

git clone https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird.git cd ladybird ./Meta/ladybird.py run If you can, run it, report issues and help them develop it.

BTW if you want to kick the tires at the current stage, building it locally is easy, just a couple of commands to install dependencies and run the build script: https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird/blob/master/Docu...

In case you didn't know they're using a lot of third-party libraries now for pretty major things: libcurl for http, Skia/Harfbuzz for rendering, libxml, OpenSSL, ffmpeg, etc: https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird/tree/8017f8a7ed3... The core browser engine, JS/CSS/layout etc will always be original.

You can look: https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird/pull/8104/files?... It seems like it is used mostly for FFI.

You can checkout the pull requests related to LibJS: https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird/pulls?q=is%3Apr+...

There's a list of unsolved problems in this Ladybird issue, now closed because they dropped Swift: https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird/issues/933 for example: "Swift fails to import clang modules with #include <math.h> with libstdc++-15 installed. Workaround: None (!!)"

Some more context here too: https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird/issues/933

> What is this mythical subset of C++ Ladybird inherits its C++ from SerenityOS. Ladybird has an almost completely homegrown standard library including their own pointer classes and a couple of different string classes that do some interesting things with memory. But perhaps the most novel stuff are things like TRY and MUST: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/blob/master/Documenta... You see this reflected all the way back to the main function. Here is the main entry function for the entire browser: ErrorOr<int> ladybird_main(Main::Arguments arguments). https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird/blob/master/UI/Q... If Ladybird is successful, I would not be surprised to see its standard library take off with other projects. Again, it is really the SerenityOS standard library but the SerenityOS founder left the project to focus on Lady

Their Mac UI is a thin layer of AppKit. Even there they're currently using Objective-C++ it looks like, not Swift: https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird/tree/master/UI/A...