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Seems like Kling is a wee bit of a chud. The claim about human rights likely stems from the "trans rights are human rights" mantra and is likely is reference to this (https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814) where Kling accused a contributor of bringing "personal politics" to the project for changing one instance of "he" to "they" in a markdown file. Since then he has, for example, apparently gone on to complain about anti-white discrimination in the workplace (https://x.com/awesomekling/status/1874518295350837401). For what it's worth, the perpetually-offended progressive has become an annoying stock character in our culture. At risk of falling for Poe's Law, the commentor on that PR who said "The denial of non-male users and/or developers is sufficient reason to not use SerenityOS" is a perfect example of this. Another more con

Here's a fun example https://archive.is/ZtQpj Another funny moment from this guy https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814#issuecommen...

I love OSS drama so I found some links: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814 https://x.com/LundukeJournal/status/1970907449499484266

> What is this mythical subset of C++ Ladybird inherits its C++ from SerenityOS. Ladybird has an almost completely homegrown standard library including their own pointer classes and a couple of different string classes that do some interesting things with memory. But perhaps the most novel stuff are things like TRY and MUST: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/blob/master/Documenta... You see this reflected all the way back to the main function. Here is the main entry function for the entire browser: ErrorOr<int> ladybird_main(Main::Arguments arguments). https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird/blob/master/UI/Q... If Ladybird is successful, I would not be surprised to see its standard library take off with other projects. Again, it is really the SerenityOS standard library but the SerenityOS founder left the project to focus on Lady

> Now, if someone wants to recreate win95 You can try Chicago95 [1], but it's only a XFCE theme. If you want more than a theme, there's SerenityOS [2] but it isn't suitable for daily use (yet) [1] https://github.com/grassmunk/Chicago95 [2] https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity

> https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity is just that, except it's a whole OS that's Win2k styled. It's a Unix underneath, though. A strange modernised Unix written in C++ but it's definitely Unix-like. It's a Unix-like with a Win2K GUI, which is a pretty attractive combination, TBH...

https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity is just that, except it's a whole OS that's Win2k styled. If it ever gets good hardware support it might have a chance. Or maybe ReactOS - the actual windows clone - gets finished. Rumours put a first release date some time after Hurd.

Kling's politics aside, he's also had a history of abandoning projects after hyping them up on social media and attracting contributors. Here is what happened to SerenityOS and jakt, for example: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/graphs/commit-activit... https://github.com/SerenityOS/jakt/graphs/commit-activity If Cloudflare wants to defend the future of the web, maybe they could also throw a few dollars towards projects with better governance and aren't helmed by a BFDL with a spotty record and are written in a more future-proof language than C++ [0]. (For example, Servo.) [0]: In Kling's own words! https://web.archive.org/web/20250819053816/https://awesomekl...

I was curious, and a bit distractible this morning, so I took a look at their git repo. I did some osdev tinkering in college so I find this all interesting. AK seems to be their standard library that you were mentioning, but there's some interesting things going on in their Libraries dir too. https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/blob/master/AK/ https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/blob/master/AK/Result... https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/tree/master/Userland/...

ToaruOS has an ARMv8 port: https://github.com/klange/toaruos and Serenity has an ARM and RISC-V ports: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity ; although I think you would call them Unix-like. Haiku has tier-2 ports to ARM, RISC-V, and SPARC: https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/building/port_status ReactOS has an ARM32 port but the ARM64 one is not usable yet. Skift apparently runs on ARM and RISC-V: https://skiftos.org/

We could argue about the history of hacker culture and its inclusivity, but it would most likely be just a series of proofless claims from both sides. I personally have never seen or heard of a person rejected from any hacker clique because of their sexual orientation. I've heard of a few having their contributions refused for trying to push political agenda [0], but then again it wasn't their identity that was refused, only the contributions related to advertising that identity. I don't feel like the neo-queer-hacker culture you're discribing is particularly welcome to anyone who disagrees with them. I've heard of multiple instances of people calling for bans of people who said something they disagree with [2]. That is completely opposite of "inclusive". Inclusivity only matters when it includes people you disagree with. > Coraline Ada E

Not anymore https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/24648

There was a big fight on Twitter last month because of a comment he made 3 years ago (https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814). I think that's closely related.

people always say that C++ is not a good fit for kernels, but so far this is the only language I know where small teams or individuals are regularly able to create non-trivial hobby OSes from scratch that go from zero to GUI: - Serenity (https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity) - not really a small team, but it managed to get to GUI as pretty much a one-man-show - Skift (https://github.com/skift-org/skift) - hhu: https://github.com/hhuOS/hhuOS - MaxOS: https://github.com/maxtyson123/MaxOS - MorphiOS: https://github.com/syedtaqi95/morphiOS - Macaron: https://github.com/MacaronOS/Macaron - Ghost: https://github.com/maxdev1/ghost most big ones in C don't manage to get to the GUI level, except toaruos: https://github.com/klange/toaruos

It's just weird that ladybird is picking ideological hills to die on, such as "no gender neutral pronouns"[1] [1] https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814